If no cards were restricted...

Lenin · Joined: 23 Jan 2007 Posts: 87

This would turn magic into yugioh.

aldaryn · Joined: 02 Sep 2004 Posts: 501

that one deck with 4 ad nausem and 4 mind's desire might kill itself a bit too often

Bushviper · Joined: 07 Aug 2006 Posts: 270

Not really, knowing the most you can take is 6 from ad nauseum, just go until you get to six or less and chances are with the low curve in the deck you will draw 15-20 cards and that should be more than enough to combo out. The season you whould have both in the deck would be to have 8 combo enabalers.

Avata · Joined: 03 Dec 2006 Posts: 398

Would *anyone* have fun playing this format?

It goes like this:

You roll against your opponent. If you win the roll, you get to goldfish a combo while your opponent does nothing.

If you lose, you get to watch them goldfish while you do nothing.

Sounds incredibly boring even if you win. Confused

Hank333 · Joined: 23 Oct 2006 Posts: 305 Location: San Antoni

Why play with no counters? That makes the format retarded... but playing with FoW and Pyroblast, the format has some level metagaming.

http://www.starcitygames.com/magic/vintage/16641_So_Many_Insane_Plays_Unrestricted_Vintage_A_Magical_Experiment.html

A really good article about this format, it might be premium still though. I want to copy paste the whole article, but i won't.

Conway · Joined: 12 Jan 2006 Posts: 26

this deck has killed on turn 1 100% so far.
its basically a suped up version of Randy Buehler's old Jar and Feather list from GP vienna 99. I even had turn 1 kill when my opening hand had all four memory jars. (Jar, jar, jar, jar, mana vault, mox jet, academy)

// Lands
4 [US] Tolarian Academy

// Spells
4 [U] Mox Sapphire
3 [A] Mox Pearl
2 [ST] Grim Tutor
4 [A] Timetwister
4 [U] Demonic Tutor
1 [US] Yawgmoth's Will
4 [A] Black Lotus
4 [B] Ancestral Recall
4 [MI] Lion's Eye Diamond
4 [B] Mox Jet
4 [B] Dark Ritual
4 [UL] Tinker
4 [UL] Memory Jar
1 [SH] Megrim
4 [B] Mana Vault
4 [TE] Lotus Petal
1 [SG] Brain Freeze

If counters were allowed in this "format", buehlers original would be better though, because he had MD defense grid and sideboarded duress.

toor · Joined: 02 Sep 2005 Posts: 55

This deck has killed on turn 1 14/15 games with the only game it didnt work involving mulligan to 3. You usually draw your whole deck on turn 1. Its kind of fun to actually goldfish.

Wishboard looks something like:
Tendrils
Yawg Will
Timetwister
Desire

// Deck file for Magic Workstation (http://www.magicworkstation.com)

// Lands
1 [R] Volcanic Island

// Spells
4 [B] Mox Jet
4 [MR] Chrome Mox
3 [B] Timetwister
4 [CS] Rite of Flame
4 [B] Ancestral Recall
4 [B] Mox Ruby
3 [SC] Mind's Desire
4 [B] Black Lotus
4 [B] Mox Sapphire
3 [TO] Cabal Ritual
4 [U] Dark Ritual
4 [SHM] Manamorphose
3 [JU] Burning Wish
4 [MI] Lion's Eye Diamond
4 [TE] Lotus Petal
3 [MM] Brainstorm

Shinato · Joined: 03 Jun 2007 Posts: 63

Misdirection is not a counter.