If no cards were restricted...

flames · Joined: 28 Jan 2009 Posts: 1

Hi, my friends and I are making a deck for shiggles that have no restrictions. Meaning if no cards were restricted in Type 1, what would a decklist look like? This is assuming that no counters are allowed, and no banned cards (Chaos Orb, ante cards) are allowed either.

My first thought was to build an Academy deck, sans restrictions, so can somebody help me generate a decklist? Yes, and I realize this is kind of pointless as games would be impossible and whoever played first won, but I still would like to know a decklist that basically wins on turn 1 every game.

Also here's a preliminary decklist:

4 Black Lotus
4 Mox Jet
4 Mox Sapphire
4 Timetwister
4 Time Walk
4 Ancestral Recall
4 Mana Crypt
4 Mana Vault
4 Sol Ring
1 Tendrils of Agony
4 Mystical Tutor
4 City of Brass
4 Brainstorm
4 Hurkyl's Recall
4 Stroke of Genius
4 Tolarian Academy

Bushviper · Joined: 07 Aug 2006 Posts: 270

4x Black Lotus
4x Mox Ruby
4x Mox Saphire
4x Mox Emerald
4x Mox Pearl
4x Mox Jet
4x Mind's Desire
4x Add Nauseum
4x Demonic Tutor
4x Mana Crypt
4x Mana Vault
2x Tendrals of Agony
4x Ancestral Recall
4x Retract
4x Sol Ring
2x Mana Morphose

Cant see how this deck wouldnt win turn one every game unless realllllly bad luck.

trueeevil · Joined: 08 Dec 2007 Posts: 254

A deck like tendrils or flash.

TugaChampion · Joined: 26 Jan 2006 Posts: 567

Spyx · Joined: 31 Oct 2004 Posts: 1031

i'm pretty sure you should include 4x contract from below...

also: 4x gemstone caverns 4x stifle

Jacois · Joined: 05 Sep 2004 Posts: 721

20 x Black Lotus
20 x Ancestral Recall
20 x Tendrils

ik · Joined: 11 Sep 2007 Posts: 316

Jacois: I think he meant with 4x max still Razz

DarkSabre · Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 10

This is what I would run if this was the format.

4 Polluted Delta
3 UnderGround Sea
1 Swamp
2 BloodStained Mires

4 Mox Jet
4 mOX sAPHIRE
4 Black Lotus
4 Ancestral Recall
4 Demonic Tutor
3 Chain of Vapor
2 Tendrils of Agony
2 Yawgomoth's Will
3 Thoughtsieze
3 Cabal Ritual
4 Dark Ritual
3 Duress
2 Yawgmoth's Bargain
3 Timetwister
4 Force of Will
3 Misdirection

This deck is able to go off turn 1 with many insane plays, but is able to defend it's self against other fast decks, and it is meta'd (funny, in this format) to be able to take advantage of the 4 recalls your opponents plays with 3 misdirections, that may be pumped to 4.

Bushviper · Joined: 07 Aug 2006 Posts: 270

I like how people are trying to play lands when in this format they would clearly not be needed.

DarkSabre · Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 10

What happens when your opponent goes 1st and drops a chalice of the void for 0, or plays a something like a variant of 12sphere (8 spheres + 4 trinisphere), maybe you should pull your thumb out of your ass, and stop playing in a world of pretend where your opponent does nothing to disrupt you.

skilless · Joined: 10 Apr 2006 Posts: 59

Bushviper · Joined: 07 Aug 2006 Posts: 270

DarkSabre · Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 10

Well technically it is a pretend format, but in almost all formats, you still have to account for the weapons that your opponents will bring to the table, otherwise you should go play a game like go fish.

I was just making a point of someone calling me an idiot for playing lands when there was a reason behind my deck idea. The deck has a strong potential for going broke 1st turn, but it also takes into account that there is an opponent involved in the game aswell, and counters there deck with counter magic and discard and bounce. REmember, you only need to storm for 10 to win, not 20 or 30 or 50

Shooter · Joined: 11 Mar 2005 Posts: 130

u can run stax with 4 B leyline,4 U leyline,4 caverns,4 stifle,4 misdirection and 4 fow
ur win con would be tinker into platinum

we had some unrestricted vintage minis,they're fun :>

Bushviper · Joined: 07 Aug 2006 Posts: 270

I hear reading is good, but I case you are too lazy to read all the way through the initial post Ill highlight the main part for you:

Hi, my friends and I are making a deck for shiggles that have no restrictions. Meaning if no cards were restricted in Type 1, what would a decklist look like? This is assuming that no counters are allowed, and no banned cards (Chaos Orb, ante cards) are allowed either.

The point of all of this is that you dont need to play anything that doesn't win you the game turn one because if you dont win turn one, your opponent will.