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8-4 Ala Ala Ala draft 1



 
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OldBear



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 7:44 pm    Post subject: 8-4 Ala Ala Ala draft 1 Reply with quote

Hey back with another draft Ive upped my game to 8-4 for nix tix and so far its paying off doubt it will last but anyway I thought this draft brought up alot of interesting choices and I went esper for once so i thought i would post it, I won by the way.


Event #: 136998
Time: 12/21/2008 11:12:35 PM
Players:
zaphodava
cezary
--> ElementalMox
shachmand
dlthe
Narco_Shorsh
vpgorman
nicki26

------ ALA ------

Pack 1 pick 1:
Blightning
Tortoise Formation
Mountain
Lightning Talons
Sighted-Caste Sorcerer
Vicious Shadows
Undead Leotau
--> Agony Warp
Sigiled Paladin
Godtoucher
Bloodpyre Elemental
Puppet Conjurer
Cathartic Adept
Sprouting Thrinax
Angelsong

So the pick is between the paladin, the warp and the thrinax, Im going to rule of the sphinx first as its good but not worth the commitment pick 1, doubler mana actuallt is a real demand to cast also in this format almost as much as two colour on an early card and overall I felt the warp was more powerfull

Pack 1 pick 2:
Elvish Visionary
Excommunicate
Island
Mosstodon
Sigil Blessing
Druid of the Anima
Punish Ignorance (FOIL)
--> Scavenger Drake
Necrogenesis
Dragon Fodder
Ridge Rannet
Dreg Reaver
Waveskimmer Aven
Sunseed Nurturer

The best card here is the necrogensis but the drake is around the same power level and on colour so thats the pick.

Pack 1 pick 3:
Resounding Scream
Naya Panorama
Bloodthorn Taunter
Forest
Naturalize
--> Skeletal Kathari
Dawnray Archer
Tortoise Formation
Cancel
Sighted-Caste Sorcerer
Cunning Lethemancer
Steward of Valeron
Rakeclaw Gargantuan

This pack sucks the best card is the gargutan but we can not really take that, its not that worrying there is nothing in it for us as it is so weak.

Pack 1 pick 4:
Relic of Progenitus
Mountain
Deathgreeter
Kederekt Creeper
Hindering Light
Protomatter Powder
Swerve
Vectis Silencers
Spearbreaker Behemoth
Resounding Silence
Jungle Weaver
--> Hissing Iguanar

The silence is probably a slightly better card but i much prefer grixis too esper

Pack 1 pick 5:
Shore Snapper
Esper Charm
Kederekt Creeper
--> Agony Warp
Ad Nauseam
Grixis Charm
Yoked Plowbeast
Island
Metallurgeon
Cylian Elf
Call to Heel

Wow warp and Charm both great promising I deliberated for a long time and decided I did not want to rule out esper entirely

Pack 1 pick 6:
Sangrite Surge
--> Etherium Sculptor
Deathgreeter
Demon's Herald
Forest
Jungle Weaver
Marble Chalice
Gift of the Gargantuan
Incurable Ogre
Obelisk of Bant

Weak pack for us the sculptor is okay in esper though.

Pack 1 pick 7:
Yoked Plowbeast
Resounding Scream
Druid of the Anima
Obelisk of Grixis
Bloodthorn Taunter
Swamp
Cancel
Thorn-Thrash Viashino
--> Courier's Capsule

Thats a promising sign

Pack 1 pick 8:
Mighty Emergence (FOIL)
--> Tidehollow Strix
Kathari Screecher
Outrider of Jhess
Windwright Mage
Lush Growth
Plains
Grixis Panorama

More good late blue the strix is prob the best card as I am solidly in ub.

Pack 1 pick 9:
Tortoise Formation
Mountain
--> Lightning Talons
Vicious Shadows
Godtoucher
Cathartic Adept
Angelsong

Pack 1 pick 10:
Excommunicate
Island
Sigil Blessing
--> Punish Ignorance (FOIL)
Dreg Reaver
Sunseed Nurturer

Sweet possible playable foil rare.

Pack 1 pick 11:
Resounding Scream
Bloodthorn Taunter
Forest
--> Dawnray Archer
Tortoise Formation

Pack 1 pick 12:
Mountain
--> Hindering Light
Protomatter Powder
Vectis Silencers

Pack 1 pick 13:
Shore Snapper
Island
--> Metallurgeon

That is ridic late, esper may well be open.

Pack 1 pick 14:
--> Demon's Herald
Forest

Pack 1 pick 15:
--> Swamp

------ ALA ------

Pack 2 pick 1:
Esper Panorama
Crumbling Necropolis
Akrasan Squire
Obelisk of Naya
Viscera Dragger
Cloudheath Drake
Archdemon of Unx
Fire-Field Ogre
Behemoth's Herald
Etherium Sculptor
--> Oblivion Ring
Viashino Skeleton
Forest
Marble Chalice
Resounding Roar

Another tough pack overall I felt red was cut quite hard pack 1 whilst white felt more open so I opted for the o-ring

Pack 2 pick 2:
Jungle Weaver (FOIL)
Sphinx's Herald
Skill Borrower
Dregscape Zombie
Cylian Elf
Soul's Fire
Welkin Guide
Goblin Deathraiders
Elvish Visionary
Bone Splinters
--> Fleshbag Marauder
Guardians of Akrasa
Goblin Mountaineer
Island

I do not really have much unearth so I felt the maruaders was a better pick not sure though.

Pack 2 pick 3:
Onyx Goblet
--> Grixis Charm
Obelisk of Jund
Elvish Visionary
Rakeclaw Gargantuan
Spell Snip
Bant Panorama
Jhessian Infiltrator
Soul's Grace
Mountain
Steward of Valeron
Volcanic Submersion
Dragon's Herald

Best card here not commited too esper yet.

Pack 2 pick 4:
Coma Veil
Plains
Sunseed Nurturer (FOIL)
--> Cloudheath Drake
Esper Panorama
Etherium Astrolabe
Ooze Garden
Obelisk of Naya
Glaze Fiend
Waveskimmer Aven
Grixis Panorama
Shadowfeed

Its a tough call between this and the panorama but I went with the drake as I have some picks whatever way I go im certain not to play

Pack 2 pick 5:
Cathartic Adept
Thoughtcutter Agent
Obelisk of Esper
--> Courier's Capsule
Ridge Rannet
Onyx Goblet
Swamp
Akrasan Squire
Lightning Talons
Scourge Devil
Savage Hunger

Good times, hopefully i can pick up some sanctum gargoyles.

Pack 2 pick 6:
Filigree Sages
Carrion Thrash
Lush Growth
Angel's Herald
Tortoise Formation
Forest
--> Sanctum Gargoyle
Outrider of Jhess
Glaze Fiend
Jund Panorama

Ka ching!

Pack 2 pick 7:
Dreg Reaver
Exuberant Firestoker
Plains
Mountain (FOIL)
Obelisk of Bant
Call to Heel
--> Jhessian Lookout
Bant Battlemage
Welkin Guide

White is going to be a spalsh if played so i went with the lookout as every deck needs early drops.

Pack 2 pick 8:
Mighty Emergence
Dispeller's Capsule
Keeper of Progenitus
Banewasp Affliction
Swamp
Spell Snip
Vectis Silencers
--> Bant Panorama

Much needed fixing

Pack 2 pick 9:
--> Cloudheath Drake
Fire-Field Ogre
Behemoth's Herald
Etherium Sculptor
Viashino Skeleton
Forest
Marble Chalice

Wow the ogre came back but Im feeling more and more like Im going esper so i took the drake

Pack 2 pick 10:
Sphinx's Herald
Skill Borrower
Cylian Elf
--> Goblin Deathraiders
Goblin Mountaineer
Island

Pack 2 pick 11:
Onyx Goblet
--> Spell Snip
Soul's Grace
Mountain
Dragon's Herald

Pack 2 pick 12:
Coma Veil
Plains
--> Glaze Fiend
Shadowfeed

Pack 2 pick 13:
Cathartic Adept
--> Thoughtcutter Agent
Swamp

Pack 2 pick 14:
--> Tortoise Formation
Forest

Pack 2 pick 15:
--> Mountain (FOIL)

------ ALA ------

Pack 3 pick 1:
Grixis Panorama
Vithian Stinger
Jund Battlemage
Shadowfeed
Rhox War Monk
Soul's Grace
Hindering Light
Cloudheath Drake
--> Elspeth, Knight-Errant
Kathari Screecher
Glaze Fiend
Plains
Rockcaster Platoon
Tidehollow Strix
Wild Nacatl

Rare draft, draft paid for could play but I doubt I will have enough white sources.

Pack 3 pick 2:
Resounding Silence
Relic of Progenitus
Mountain
Kederekt Creeper
Resounding Wave
Deathgreeter
Volcanic Submersion
--> Esper Battlemage
Soul's Fire
Soul's Might
Knight of the Skyward Eye
Jhessian Infiltrator
Corpse Connoisseur
Resounding Roar

Battle mage is an easy pick with what we have.

Pack 3 pick 3:
Tidehollow Strix
Fire-Field Ogre
Carrion Thrash
Coma Veil
Shadowfeed
Arcane Sanctum
Island
Sanctum Gargoyle
Hindering Light
Incurable Ogre
--> Executioner's Capsule
Esper Panorama
Grixis Battlemage

Tough call between the gargoyle and the capsule I have little experince of drafting esper so Im not sure whats right So i went with the removal.

Pack 3 pick 4:
Resounding Roar
Welkin Guide
Angelsong
Mighty Emergence
Plains
Dreg Reaver
Rakeclaw Gargantuan
Soul's Fire
Naturalize
Jhessian Lookout
Bloodthorn Taunter
--> Puppet Conjurer

Awsome with drake and great in esper.

Pack 3 pick 5:
Magma Spray
Sunseed Nurturer
Goblin Mountaineer
Godtoucher
Gustrider Exuberant
Resounding Wave
--> Sanctum Gargoyle
Naturalize
Blightning
Mountain
Mosstodon

Hurrah!

Pack 3 pick 6:
Rockcaster Platoon
Island
Shore Snapper
--> Grixis Battlemage
Call to Heel
Court Archers
Viashino Skeleton
Excommunicate
Sigil Blessing
Rip-Clan Crasher

Is solid in esper

Pack 3 pick 7:
--> Windwright Mage
Deft Duelist
Jhessian Lookout
Invincible Hymn
Bant Battlemage
Banewasp Affliction
Resounding Silence
Gift of the Gargantuan
Forest

Easy pick

Pack 3 pick 8:
Clarion Ultimatum
Soul's Might
--> Obelisk of Esper
Sangrite Surge
Swamp
Steelclad Serpent
Gustrider Exuberant
Dispeller's Capsule

Much needed fixing again

Pack 3 pick 9:
Shadowfeed
Soul's Grace
Hindering Light
--> Cloudheath Drake
Glaze Fiend
Plains
Rockcaster Platoon

So much good esper stuff so late

Pack 3 pick 10:
--> Relic of Progenitus
Mountain
Kederekt Creeper
Deathgreeter
Volcanic Submersion
Soul's Might

Pack 3 pick 11:
Coma Veil
Shadowfeed
Island
--> Hindering Light
Grixis Battlemage

Pack 3 pick 12:
Angelsong
Mighty Emergence
Plains
--> Jhessian Lookout

Pack 3 pick 13:
--> Sunseed Nurturer
Goblin Mountaineer
Mountain

Pack 3 pick 14:
Island
--> Shore Snapper

Pack 3 pick 15:
--> Forest

1 executioners capsule
2 courriers capsule
1 pupert conjurer
1 tidehollow strix
2 agony warp
1 Jhessian Lookout (mistake should have been metaluergon but I wanted to keep white to minimum)
1 Esper Battlemage
1 Obelisk of esper
1 windwright mage
1 oblivion ring
1 fleshbag maruaders
1 Grixis battlemage
2 sanctum gargoyle
1 scavenger drake
3 cloudheath drake
1 skeletal kathari
3 Plains
7 Islands
7 swamps
1 bant panorama

Feedback appreciated
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garetjax



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Posts: 19

PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would have def made room for elspeth + metalurgeon, I dont see how you could not play her, the power level is too high.
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adventur_



Joined: 08 Feb 2008
Posts: 9

PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found that on Modo, Esper seems to be underdrafted a lot. I've ended up in that shard quite frequently, often pushed into it by several high picks - as is evident by the amounts of Gargoyles you see.

p3p7 I personally would have picked Silence over Windwright Mage. I really don't like the mage, it's not really an early drop due to mana requirements and most likely missing flying, and it's not a good late drop due to its small size. Kind of a meh card, even more so with that mana base. You're not that light on creatures that you desperately have to pick one here.

Also, I think it's a big mistake not to include more white. In this format, everyone has a bad mana base so having a card like Elspeth that you can just slam and win with is a huuuuge bonus. Metalurgeon too makes for an annoying little addition that should definitely be included.
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asamodious



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Posts: 362

PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

u were fine putting elspeth in the deck.

His power level is worth it. But i could understand not wanting to put him in.
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OldBear



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Posts: 1840

PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I honestly do not think I should put elsepth in as the deck is running 19 mana sources counting the obelisk just to get a decent mana base as this format is all about the mana. Still I have only 5 white sources most of the time elsepth is going to be a dead card, more so when you consider the panorama I am playing may have to be used to get blue and if i draw it as my first avaliable source of white and sack it then it counts as knocking two white sources out of my deck leabing me with 3 white sources avaliable one of which is an obelisk, which is also vunerable to artifact removal if someone sees it is my only white source.

For elspeth to be worth it I have to draw two white sources unlikely and then i have to draw my one in forty also unlikely, so two unlikley things need to happen for elspeth to be worth it, going out of your way for something very unlikley to happen just because if it does its powerfull not worth it. Changing my mana base, just to support elspeth and making myself more vunerable to screw thats in the long term how you Lose games in this format, upping the mana count 19 sources is bad enough as it is.
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