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onlainari



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 3:37 am    Post subject: 45 minute conversation on mwsplay Reply with quote

mTk-Away wrote:
If you want to post logs of people being ass on mwsplay, at least make sure you don't also seem like a complete jerk. :/

I guess my motives aren't to make me look like the good guy. I am an ass.




0:00:13 [Conor] Conor plays Windbrisk Heights from Hand

0:00:20 [Conor] <Conor> jeez..

0:00:34 [onlainari] onlainari plays Figure of Destiny from Hand

0:00:53 [onlainari] onlainari plays Goldmeadow Stalwart from Hand

0:00:57 [Conor] <Conor> oh jeez
0:00:58 [Conor] <Conor> kithkins

0:01:00 [Conor] Conor's life total is now 18 (-2)

0:01:05 [onlainari] <onlainari> are you kithkins?

0:01:14 [Conor] <Conor> I LOVE kithkins
0:01:20 [Conor] <Conor> ive been running them for months
0:01:27 [Conor] <Conor> but
0:01:28 [Conor] <Conor> sorry :/
0:01:29 [Conor] Conor plays Stillmoon Cavalier from Hand

0:01:40 [Conor] <Conor> BIGGEST pain in the ass..
0:01:44 [onlainari] <onlainari> yes well
0:01:47 [onlainari] <onlainari> it's okay
0:01:51 [onlainari] onlainari plays Wizened Cenn from Hand

0:01:59 [Conor] Conor's life total is now 15 (-3)

0:03:00 [Conor] <Conor> just found out how to make a playlist on youtube
0:03:02 [Conor] <Conor> so awesome
0:03:06 [onlainari] <onlainari> oh ok
0:03:11 [onlainari] <onlainari> well i needed another land
0:03:13 [onlainari] <onlainari> hmmm
0:03:21 [onlainari] onlainari plays Wizened Cenn from Hand

0:03:21 [Conor] <Conor> I have what I need :/

0:03:42 [Conor] <Conor> Thinking
0:03:49 [Conor] <Conor> kithkins are SO fast
0:03:56 [Conor] Conor plays Unmake from Hand

0:04:06 [Conor] Conor's life total is now 9 (-6)

0:04:08 [onlainari] onlainari puts Wizened Cenn to Graveyard from Play

0:04:16 [Conor] <Conor> ..
0:04:20 [Conor] <Conor> 5 land = win
0:04:22 [Conor] <Conor> I dont win :/

0:04:28 [Conor] Conor plays Spectral Procession from Hand

0:04:55 [onlainari] onlainari plays Ranger of Eos from Hand
0:05:04 [Conor] <Conor> LOL
0:05:05 [Conor] <Conor> ok

0:05:26 [onlainari] onlainari's life total is now 17 (-3)

0:05:33 [Conor] Conor flips Painter's Servant over
0:05:38 [Conor] <Conor> BLUE
0:05:40 [Conor] Conor plays Painter's Servant from Hand
0:05:42 [Conor] <Conor> WHITE

0:05:46 [onlainari] <onlainari> alright

0:05:52 [Conor] <Conor> PROTECTION FROM EVERYTHING FTW
0:06:01 [onlainari] <onlainari> hmmmm
0:06:03 [Conor] <Conor> lol i LOVE saying that
0:06:17 [Conor] <Conor> btw
0:06:21 [Conor] <Conor> this is your last turn
0:06:25 [onlainari] <onlainari> really?
0:06:27 [Conor] <Conor> yep
0:06:29 [Conor] <Conor> belive it or not
0:06:41 [Conor] <Conor> so lol
0:06:41 [onlainari] <onlainari> backlash only does like 7 damage
0:06:49 [Conor] <Conor> you misread the card...
0:06:52 [Conor] <Conor> it does um
0:06:54 [Conor] <Conor> right now
0:06:57 [Conor] <Conor> like 2 0something
0:07:05 [Conor] <Conor> sorry
0:07:06 [onlainari] <onlainari> hold on
0:07:09 [Conor] <Conor> lol
0:07:14 [Conor] <Conor> meh just do your turn
0:07:17 [Conor] <Conor> we'll see
0:07:31 [onlainari] <onlainari> oh it does twice
0:07:35 [Conor] <Conor> lol then I take 9 :/
0:07:36 [Conor] <Conor> LOL
0:07:37 [Conor] <Conor> internet ftw?
0:07:42 [onlainari] <onlainari> i have an answer
0:07:49 [Conor] <Conor> lol ok do your turn :/
0:08:07 [onlainari] <onlainari> hmmm
0:08:08 [Conor] <Conor> haha I REALLY want to kill you..

0:08:28 [onlainari] onlainari taps Figure of Destiny
0:08:28 [onlainari] onlainari taps Goldmeadow Stalwart
0:08:28 [onlainari] onlainari taps Ranger of Eos

*blocks*

0:08:40 [onlainari] onlainari plays Mirrorweave from Hand

0:08:48 [Conor] Conor puts Painter's Servant to Graveyard from Play
0:08:49 [Conor] Conor puts Painter's Servant to Graveyard from Play
0:08:51 [onlainari] onlainari puts Ranger of Eos to Graveyard from Play
0:08:51 [onlainari] onlainari puts Figure of Destiny to Graveyard from Play
0:08:51 [onlainari] onlainari puts Goldmeadow Stalwart to Graveyard from Play
0:08:53 [Conor] Conor puts Stillmoon Cavalier to Graveyard from Play



















0:09:07 [onlainari] onlainari's life total is now 14 (-3)

0:09:14 [Conor] <Conor> you still die :/

0:09:17 [Conor] Conor plays Chaotic Backlash from Hand

0:09:25 [onlainari] <onlainari> i have 0 white permanents
0:09:25 [Conor] <Conor> 16 damage
0:09:30 [Conor] <Conor> your lands are white
0:09:31 [Conor] <Conor> and blue
0:09:34 [onlainari] <onlainari> you are soooo stupid
0:09:38 [Conor] <Conor> so white+blue
0:09:39 [onlainari] <onlainari> how the **** can you play backlash
0:09:42 [onlainari] <onlainari> and not know the rules
0:09:45 [Conor] <Conor> ?
0:09:47 [Conor] <Conor> wait
0:09:48 [Conor] <Conor> a sec
0:09:48 [onlainari] <onlainari> color is determines by mana cost
0:09:50 [onlainari] <onlainari> moron
0:09:51 [onlainari] <onlainari> noob
0:09:51 [Conor] <Conor> read the card
0:09:52 [Conor] <Conor> no
0:09:55 [Conor] <Conor> read this card
0:09:56 [Conor] Conor plays Painter's Servant from Hand
0:10:01 [onlainari] <onlainari> that is dead
0:10:03 [onlainari] <onlainari> it's not in play
0:10:04 [Conor] <Conor> all cards
0:10:08 [Conor] <Conor> it is permanent
0:10:08 [onlainari] <onlainari> it's not in play
0:10:09 [onlainari] <onlainari> moron
0:10:11 [onlainari] <onlainari> it's dead
0:10:15 [Conor] <Conor> it effect is permanent
0:10:18 [onlainari] <onlainari> wrong
0:10:20 [Conor] <Conor> do you want me to get some rulings?
0:10:22 [onlainari] <onlainari> yes
0:10:24 [onlainari] <onlainari> noob
0:10:25 [Conor] <Conor> I can get rules
0:10:27 [Conor] <Conor> ok 1 sec
0:10:29 [Conor] <Conor> calm down over there
0:10:30 [Conor] <Conor> jeez
0:10:31 [Conor] <Conor> 1 sec
0:11:29 [Conor] <Conor> ugh
0:11:37 [Conor] <Conor> its so obvious its not on the adv. ruling..
0:11:39 [Conor] <Conor> 1 sec
0:12:38 [Conor] <Conor> http://ww2.wizards.com/gatherer/CardDetails.aspx?&id=146022
0:12:52 [onlainari] <onlainari> reading
0:12:54 [Conor] <Conor> when he comes into play
0:12:58 [Conor] <Conor> you choose a colour
0:13:05 [Conor] <Conor> and then all cards are that colour
0:13:08 [Conor] <Conor> PERIOD
0:13:17 [onlainari] <onlainari> only while he is in play
0:13:18 [Conor] <Conor> says nothing about him leaving play
0:13:26 [onlainari] <onlainari> correct but thats because it doesn't have to
0:13:29 [Conor] <Conor> it does not say that on the card
0:13:32 [onlainari] <onlainari> the rules say abilities only work while in play
0:13:33 [Conor] <Conor> it does
0:13:35 [onlainari] <onlainari> http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=1107810
0:13:38 [onlainari] <onlainari> http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=1107811
0:13:52 [onlainari] <onlainari> the rules say abilities only work while in play
0:14:00 [onlainari] <onlainari> it does not have to say "only works while in play"
0:14:06 [onlainari] <onlainari> wow you are the biggest noob ever
0:14:08 [Conor] <Conor> 1 sec reading
0:14:12 [Conor] <Conor> no I know im right
0:14:17 [Conor] <Conor> I've had judges rule this
0:14:18 [Conor] <Conor> way
0:14:26 [onlainari] <onlainari> okay
0:14:31 [onlainari] <onlainari> then why is it four times
0:14:34 [onlainari] <onlainari> and not twice
0:14:37 [Conor] <Conor> ok
0:14:45 [Conor] <Conor> I played 2 servants
0:14:45 [Conor] <Conor> right
0:14:54 [Conor] <Conor> one for blue
0:14:55 [Conor] <Conor> one for white
0:14:56 [Conor] <Conor> so
0:14:57 [onlainari] <onlainari> so everything is blue and white
0:15:02 [Conor] <Conor> backlash says white and blue
0:15:05 [Conor] <Conor> so you have 4 white
0:15:07 [Conor] <Conor> and 4 blue
0:15:09 [Conor] <Conor> =8
0:15:12 [Conor] <Conor> and then double that
0:15:13 [onlainari] <onlainari> it doesn't double if they're both white and blue
0:15:16 [Conor] <Conor> because of backlash
0:15:22 [Conor] <Conor> read backlash CAREFULLY
0:15:40 [Conor] <Conor> twice the number of damage equal to white AND/OR blue permanents.
0:15:50 [Conor] <Conor> so 4+4=8x2=16
0:16:05 [Conor] <Conor> please dont leave...
0:16:22 [onlainari] <onlainari> i'm waiting for a response
0:16:26 [onlainari] <onlainari> on the forums
0:16:36 [Conor] <Conor> yea
0:16:43 [Conor] <Conor> me too lol
0:17:00 [Conor] <Conor> sorry, but im going to be right :/
0:17:09 [onlainari] <onlainari> [20:01] <onlainari> if you play painter's servant and name blue, then it dies, is everything still blue???
0:17:13 [onlainari] <onlainari> [20:02] <Weedmonkey> onlainari: that would be a no
0:18:26 [Conor] <Conor> we'll wait and see..
0:19:31 [Conor] <Conor> :/
0:20:29 [Conor] <Conor> ugh
0:20:38 [Conor] <Conor> this ruling is so obvious I cant find anything!
0:20:44 [onlainari] <onlainari> conor
0:20:46 [onlainari] <onlainari> you are wrong
0:20:50 [onlainari] <onlainari> you deal 0 damage
0:21:25 [Conor] <Conor> ok
0:21:33 [Conor] <Conor> let me find an example
0:21:35 [onlainari] <onlainari> okay






















0:21:50 [onlainari] <onlainari> http://www.starcitygames.com/pages/j...=Ask+The+Judge!
0:22:17 [Conor] <Conor> http://ww2.wizards.com/gatherer/Card...spx?&id=175054
0:22:19 [Conor] <Conor> se
0:22:27 [Conor] <Conor> it says "when it leaves play"
0:22:30 [Conor] <Conor> return the card
0:22:36 [Conor] <Conor> so leaves play is never implied in magic
0:22:49 [Conor] <Conor> cards are played as the writing on them
0:23:02 [onlainari] <onlainari> did you read that link i just gave you
0:23:12 [Conor] <Conor> 1 sec
0:23:14 [Conor] <Conor> I will now lol
0:23:44 [Conor] <Conor> so
0:23:48 [Conor] <Conor> you die next turn :/
0:23:50 [Conor] <Conor> Thinking
0:24:17 [Conor] <Conor> wow
0:24:19 [Conor] <Conor> that guy is WRONG
0:24:22 [Conor] <Conor> 1 sec
0:24:38 [Conor] <Conor> o
0:24:39 [Conor] <Conor> no
0:24:52 [Conor] <Conor> ah wow this is confusing
0:24:56 [Conor] <Conor> now im not sure after that link
0:25:04 [Conor] Conor reveals a Chaotic Backlash
0:25:08 [Conor] <Conor> it will be 16 anyways
0:25:15 [Conor] <Conor> but I want to find out now..
0:25:15 [onlainari] <onlainari> no
0:25:18 [onlainari] <onlainari> i have no white
0:25:21 [onlainari] <onlainari> or blue
0:25:22 [onlainari] <onlainari> permanents
0:25:25 [Conor] <Conor> the servant
0:25:27 [Conor] <Conor> made them white
0:25:28 [Conor] <Conor> and blue
0:25:32 [Conor] <Conor> he is permanent
0:25:41 [Conor] <Conor> in magic, you play the cards as written
0:26:12 [Conor] <Conor> Chaotic Backlash deals damage to target player equal to twice the number of white and blue permanents he or she controls.
0:26:14 [Conor] <Conor> read that
0:26:18 [Conor] <Conor> you remove the or
0:26:21 [Conor] <Conor> and thats what it reads
0:26:25 [onlainari] <onlainari> AHA
0:26:27 [onlainari] <onlainari> i found the rule
0:26:28 [onlainari] <onlainari> 402.8. Abilities of an instant or sorcery usually function only while the object is on the stack. Abilities of all other objects usually function only while that object is in play. The exceptions are as follows:
0:26:42 [Conor] <Conor> what are the exceptions?
0:26:47 [onlainari] <onlainari> abilities of all other objects usually function only while that object is in play
0:26:54 [onlainari] <onlainari> the exceptions are:
*chunk of rules*
0:27:45 [onlainari] <onlainari> those are the exceptions
0:27:46 [Conor] <Conor> wait a sec
0:28:14 [Conor] <Conor> ugh
0:28:44 [Conor] <Conor> there is nothing that states the cards that are now white lose the color after they leave
0:29:08 [Conor] <Conor> jesus I wish I could phone my judge
0:29:11 [Conor] <Conor> its too late though
0:30:06 [onlainari] <onlainari> abilities
0:30:10 [onlainari] <onlainari> only work while the card is in play
0:30:18 [onlainari] <onlainari> painter's servant's ability only works while it is in play
0:30:19 [Conor] <Conor> is it an ability?
0:30:23 [Conor] <Conor> is this an ability?
0:30:25 [Conor] <Conor> it is a trigger
0:30:28 [onlainari] <onlainari> of course it's an ability
0:30:33 [onlainari] <onlainari> it's not a triggered ability either
0:30:42 [Conor] <Conor> its not a triggered ability
0:30:46 [onlainari] <onlainari> it doesn't use the words "when, whenever, or at"
0:30:48 [Conor] <Conor> you know megrim?
0:30:54 [onlainari] <onlainari> yes
0:31:00 [onlainari] <onlainari> megrim has a triggered ability
0:31:03 [Conor] <Conor> when you take the 2 damage
0:31:04 [onlainari] <onlainari> is uses whenever
0:31:10 [Conor] <Conor> it is a trigger
0:31:10 [Conor] <Conor> ugh
0:31:11 [Conor] <Conor> 1 sec
0:31:15 [onlainari] <onlainari> *******it
0:31:23 [onlainari] <onlainari> i am talking to someone who doesnt know what a ****ing triggered ability is
0:31:35 [onlainari] <onlainari> TRIGGERED ABILITIES USE THE ****ING WORDS WHEN, WHENEVER, OR AT
0:31:44 [onlainari] <onlainari> nooooooooooooooooooob
0:31:44 [Conor] <Conor> wow the new magic page sucks
0:32:21 [Conor] <Conor> did anybody reply to you forum topic?
0:32:22 [onlainari] <onlainari> 404. Triggered Abilities
0:32:24 [onlainari] <onlainari> 404.1. A triggered ability begins with the word when,¯ whenever,¯ or at.¯ The phrase containing one of these words is the trigger condition, which defines the trigger event.
0:32:37 [Conor] <Conor> not "as"?
0:32:37 [onlainari] <onlainari> painter's servant doesn't have a triggered ability
0:32:43 [onlainari] <onlainari> it's a static ability
0:32:55 [Conor] <Conor> :/
0:33:12 [onlainari] <onlainari> 400.1. An ability is something an object does or can do. Abilities generate effects. An objects abilities are defined in the objects text box (if it has one) or by the effect that created the object. Abilities can also be granted to objects by effects or rules. Reminder text and flavor text are not abilities. Reminder text and flavor text always appear in italics.
0:33:36 [onlainari] <onlainari> painter's servant has an ability that only functions while it is in play
0:33:56 [Conor] <Conor> it would say "as long as it stays in play"
0:34:04 [Conor] <Conor> there are a LOT of cards with this as an example
0:34:42 [Conor] <Conor> ugh
0:34:48 [Conor] <Conor> let me find one
0:35:27 [Conor] <Conor> HERE
0:35:31 [Conor] <Conor> http://ww2.wizards.com/gatherer/Card...spx?&id=140165
0:35:57 [Conor] <Conor> they have the "as long as it is in play" there for a reason
0:36:23 [onlainari] <onlainari> well duh
0:36:27 [Conor] <Conor> yea
0:36:32 [Conor] <Conor> servant doesnt have that
0:36:33 [Conor] <Conor> so
0:36:33 [onlainari] <onlainari> that's a triggered ability
0:36:36 [Conor] <Conor> it is permanent
0:36:43 [onlainari] <onlainari> sower has a triggered ability
0:36:51 [onlainari] <onlainari> with a conditional clause
0:37:51 [Conor] <Conor> k reading something
0:38:38 [Conor] <Conor> ok
0:38:45 [Conor] <Conor> Im going to explain again
0:38:49 [Conor] <Conor> painters servant comes into play
0:38:50 [Conor] <Conor> ok?
0:38:56 [onlainari] <onlainari> ok
0:39:00 [Conor] <Conor> I choose white
0:39:06 [Conor] <Conor> everything is white in addition to its other colours
0:39:07 [Conor] <Conor> ok?
0:39:17 [onlainari] <onlainari> All cards that aren't in play, spells, and permanents are the chosen color in addition to their other colors.
0:39:20 [onlainari] <onlainari> that is an ability
0:39:21 [Conor] <Conor> yep
0:39:23 [Conor] <Conor> then
0:39:26 [onlainari] <onlainari> and it only works while it is in play
0:39:27 [Conor] <Conor> that painters servant dies
0:39:29 [Conor] <Conor> ok?
0:39:30 [onlainari] <onlainari> i quoted the rules
0:39:37 [onlainari] <onlainari> that ability only works while it is in play
0:39:42 [Conor] <Conor> whats the website for those rules...
0:39:43 [onlainari] <onlainari> that ability only works while it is in play
0:39:50 [onlainari] <onlainari> All cards that aren't in play, spells, and permanents are the chosen color in addition to their other colors.
0:39:53 [onlainari] <onlainari> this is an ability
0:39:57 [Conor] <Conor> yes
0:39:59 [onlainari] <onlainari> and it only works while painter's servant is in play
0:40:01 [Conor] <Conor> it triggers when it comes into play
0:40:02 [Conor] <Conor> correct?
0:40:09 [onlainari] <onlainari> its not a triggered ability
0:40:10 [onlainari] <onlainari> moron
0:40:13 [Conor] <Conor> then what is it?
0:40:14 [onlainari] <onlainari> I already told you that
0:40:18 [onlainari] <onlainari> its a static ability
0:40:21 [Conor] <Conor> what is it?
0:40:25 [Conor] <Conor> static?
0:40:25 [onlainari] <onlainari> STATIC ABILITY
0:40:28 [Conor] <Conor> let me look that up
0:40:36 [onlainari] <onlainari> nooooooob
0:40:38 [onlainari] <onlainari> nooooooob
0:40:40 [onlainari] <onlainari> nooooooob
0:40:51 [onlainari] <onlainari> you are the biggest noob ever
0:40:53 [Conor] <Conor> ok
0:40:57 [Conor] <Conor> here is an example
0:41:00 [Conor] <Conor> defender is a static ability
0:41:04 [onlainari] <onlainari> correct
0:41:08 [Conor] <Conor> now
0:41:14 [Conor] <Conor> when something with defender leaves play
0:41:24 [Conor] <Conor> other things with defender still cant attack
0:41:40 [onlainari] <onlainari> 405.1. A static ability does something all the time rather than being activated or triggered. The ability isnt played”it just exists.¯ Such abilities apply only while the ability is on a permanent in play, unless the ability is covered by rule 402.8.
0:41:51 [onlainari] <onlainari> SEE
0:41:56 [onlainari] <onlainari> DO YOU ****ING SEE THAT
0:41:58 [Conor] <Conor> but
0:42:00 [onlainari] <onlainari> NO BUT
0:42:04 [onlainari] <onlainari> YOU ARE THE NOOB
0:42:09 [Conor] <Conor> ok
0:42:11 [onlainari] <onlainari> 405.1. A static ability does something all the time rather than being activated or triggered. The ability isnt played it just exists.¯ Such abilities apply only while the ability is on a permanent in play, unless the ability is covered by rule 402.8.
0:42:58 [onlainari] <onlainari> that's the rules
0:43:02 [onlainari] <onlainari> it says right there
0:43:10 [onlainari] <onlainari> it only works while painter's servant is in play
0:43:30 [onlainari] <onlainari> 405.1. A static ability does something all the time rather than being activated or triggered. The ability isnt played it just exists.¯ Such abilities apply only while the ability is on a permanent in play, unless the ability is covered by rule 402.8.
0:43:48 [Conor] <Conor> first of all
0:43:52 [onlainari] <onlainari> SUCH ABILITIES APPLY ONLY WHILE THE ABILITY IS ON A PERMANENT IN PLAY
0:43:58 [Conor] <Conor> a static ability isnt being activated or triggered
0:44:06 [Conor] <Conor> a static ability is like glorious anthem
0:44:08 [Conor] <Conor> it just happens
0:44:13 [Conor] <Conor> this doesnt just happen
0:44:16 [onlainari] <onlainari> yes it does
0:44:18 [onlainari] <onlainari> there are only three types of abilities
0:44:19 [Conor] <Conor> it has to come into play
0:44:23 [Conor] <Conor> it has to come into play first
0:44:29 [Conor] <Conor> and you can respond to its comes into play
0:44:35 [onlainari] <onlainari> you cannot respond
0:44:39 [Conor] <Conor> wow
0:44:40 [onlainari] <onlainari> you can respond to the spell
0:44:41 [Conor] <Conor> so your saying
0:44:52 [Conor] <Conor> you can not respond to a comes into play ability?
0:45:00 [onlainari] <onlainari> IT'S NOT A TRIGGERED ABILITY
0:45:05 [onlainari] <onlainari> YOU RESPOND TO TRIGGERED ABILITIES
0:45:07 [Conor] <Conor> a kinsbaile borderguard
0:45:11 [onlainari] <onlainari> THEY USE WHEN, WHENEVER, AND AT
0:45:12 [Conor] <Conor> can be resonded to
0:45:13 [Conor] <Conor> correct?
0:45:27 [Conor] <Conor> and btw
0:45:31 [Conor] <Conor> as is just another word
0:45:39 [Conor] <Conor> for at
0:45:44 [Conor] <Conor> it is a different tense :/
0:45:45 [onlainari] <onlainari> WRONG
0:45:51 [onlainari] <onlainari> YOU CAN'T RESPOND TO KINSBAILE BORDERGUARD
0:45:55 [Conor] <Conor> you can
0:45:59 [Conor] <Conor> I have done it countless times
0:46:03 [Conor] <Conor> at MAJOR events
0:46:07 [onlainari] <onlainari> THEN YOU HAVE BEEN CHEATING
0:46:11 [Conor] <Conor> I ran kithkins at nationals
0:46:20 [onlainari] <onlainari> YOU CANNOT SHOCK HIM IN RESPONSE
0:46:22 [onlainari] <onlainari> THAT IS CHEATING
0:46:24 [Conor] <Conor> no
0:46:25 [onlainari] <onlainari> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOB
0:46:27 [onlainari] <onlainari> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOB
0:46:30 [onlainari] <onlainari> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOB
0:46:31 [Conor] <Conor> jesus wait
0:47:25 [onlainari] <onlainari> YOU ARE WRONG
0:47:47 [Conor] <Conor> ugh
0:47:53 [Conor] <Conor> guess what im going to say
0:48:02 [Conor] <Conor> so this is going no where
0:48:04 [onlainari] <onlainari> i already
0:48:06 [onlainari] <onlainari> showed you
0:48:07 [onlainari] <onlainari> the rules
0:48:19 [onlainari] <onlainari> 405.1. A static ability does something all the time rather than being activated or triggered. The ability isnt played it just exists.¯ Such abilities apply only while the ability is on a permanent in play, unless the ability is covered by rule 402.8.
0:48:53 [onlainari] <onlainari> 402.2. There are three general categories of abilities: activated, triggered, and static. Activated and triggered abilities can also be mana abilities. Abilities can generate one-shot effects or continuous effects. Some effects are replacement effects or prevention effects.
0:49:20 [Conor] <Conor> To answer your question YES! everything is still blue¯
0:49:26 [Conor] <Conor> I am reading a reply to your thread
0:49:33 [Conor] <Conor> you see what he posted?
0:49:39 [onlainari] <onlainari> he is a noob
0:49:44 [onlainari] <onlainari> he knows nothing
0:49:54 [Conor] <Conor> so me and him are now noobs
0:49:57 [onlainari] <onlainari> duh
0:49:59 [Conor] <Conor> or
0:49:59 [Conor] <Conor> you are wrong
0:50:03 [onlainari] <onlainari> i am not wrong
0:50:17 [onlainari] <onlainari> you're the most ****ing dumbest **** i have ever talked to
0:50:17 [Conor] <Conor> so me and this other guy are wrong
0:50:21 [Conor] <Conor> I am 100% sure I am right
0:50:27 [onlainari] <onlainari> that makes you a moron
0:50:28 [Conor] <Conor> and you keep name calling
0:50:35 [Conor] <Conor> which is TOTALLY unneeded
0:50:40 [onlainari] <onlainari> of course it's needed
0:50:51 [onlainari] <onlainari> ****ing nitwits like you need to learn their place in this world
0:51:04 [Conor] <Conor> ok listen
0:51:12 [Conor] <Conor> you ask a bunch of ppl tomorrow or whatever
0:51:20 [Conor] <Conor> talk to real ppl who know
0:51:26 [Conor] <Conor> not over the internet
0:51:31 [Conor] <Conor> and phone wizards if you have to
0:51:33 [Conor] <Conor> but I am right
0:51:37 [Conor] <Conor> and I am sure
0:51:44 [Conor] <Conor> the local card shop I go to
0:51:48 [Conor] <Conor> is run by a judge
0:51:53 [Conor] <Conor> and Ive already asked him
0:51:54 [onlainari] <onlainari> AND THAT JUDGE IS A DUMB ****
0:52:00 [Conor] <Conor> now the judge is also wrong
0:52:04 [Conor] <Conor> and me
0:52:06 [Conor] <Conor> and that other guy
0:52:07 [Conor] <Conor> or you
0:52:24 [Conor] <Conor> just seriously
0:52:28 [Conor] <Conor> ask ppl tomorrow
0:52:31 [Conor] <Conor> realise you were wrong
0:52:33 [Conor] <Conor> and then here
0:52:41 [Conor] <Conor> give me your email
0:52:51 [Conor] <Conor> and I will get written evidence, signed by a judge
0:53:02 [Conor] <Conor> scan it and email it to you
0:53:13 [Conor] <Conor> will that be good enough?
0:53:13 [onlainari] <onlainari> *blanked email*
0:53:19 [Conor] <Conor> ok
0:53:23 [Conor] <Conor> now, assuming I remember
0:53:30 [Conor] <Conor> I will set my alarm oh my cellphone
0:53:34 [onlainari] <onlainari> tell them to look at rule 405.1
0:53:40 [Conor] <Conor> ok
0:53:46 [Conor] <Conor> but seriously
0:54:12 [Conor] <Conor> you are saying 3 other ppl, one of them a judge
0:54:13 [Conor] <Conor> are wrong
0:54:23 [onlainari] <onlainari> correct
0:54:29 [Conor] <Conor> wow
0:54:35 [Conor] <Conor> we just agreed ':/
0:54:42 [onlainari] <onlainari> i'm not surprised that people are wrong
0:54:50 [Conor] <Conor> well
0:54:51 [onlainari] <onlainari> you are stupid
0:54:53 [onlainari] <onlainari> the judge is stupid
0:54:58 [Conor] <Conor> and that other guy
0:54:59 [onlainari] <onlainari> you will get lots of things wrong in your life
0:55:02 [Conor] <Conor> and you are the smartest!
0:55:07 [onlainari] <onlainari> well duh
0:55:09 [Conor] <Conor> see
0:55:24 [Conor] <Conor> well there we go
0:55:28 [Conor] <Conor> so anyways
0:55:32 [Conor] <Conor> I will email you
0:55:45 [Conor] <Conor> and you also talk to ppl
0:55:49 [Conor] <Conor> and find out you are wrong
0:56:01 [Conor] <Conor> CYA
0:56:06 [<System>] <System> Player Lost


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trueeevil



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

should've asked for his email.
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Astarael



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

k sure he was wrong, ability only works when it's in play... But um, as he said all the swearing was rather unneeded... Possible 141 penalty?
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jazzbat



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No one cares enough about you to waste their time reading your conversation.
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onlainari



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 5:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ransom3 wrote:
No one cares enough about you to waste their time reading your conversation.

So true.
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Delicious



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ransom3 wrote:
No one cares enough about you to waste their time reading your conversation.


qft
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Carnubak



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, this is one of the reasons why I prefer checking my rules online in Crystal Keep instead of resorting to Gatherer. As official as they are, they frequently hold outdated or incomplete rulings on some cards.
Follow this link, and you'll find what you're looking for.
Also, Painter's Servant has two distinct abilities (one for each paragraph). The first is a replacement ability, not triggered (you might have used that in your arguments), and the second one is static, as mentioned.
Bottom line is: rules-wise, you were right; but there's no need to namecalling, especially when playing a new player, or someone that is not familiar with the rules. No-one responds well to trolling and verbal abuse, while they might consider your arguments if only you addressed them civilly and in an educated way.
You were right, but your attitude suggested that you weren't. It was mainly a communication issue, and you were all the time in the wrong side of it. Sorry.
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ShinyMan



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At first I didn't plan to read it all, but after reading it for a while this thing became hilarious. The conversation was so lively I feel like I could see both players talking in front of me. And the fact that the one guy was just wrong to no end and another guy was cursing to no end were also very hilarious.

This is the best parts imo;
Quote:
0:15:16 [Conor] <Conor> because of backlash
0:15:22 [Conor] <Conor> read backlash CAREFULLY
0:15:40 [Conor] <Conor> twice the number of damage equal to white AND/OR blue permanents.
0:15:50 [Conor] <Conor> so 4+4=8x2=16
0:16:05 [Conor] <Conor> please dont leave...


Quote:
0:40:53 [Conor] <Conor> ok
0:40:57 [Conor] <Conor> here is an example
0:41:00 [Conor] <Conor> defender is a static ability
0:41:04 [onlainari] <onlainari> correct
0:41:08 [Conor] <Conor> now
0:41:14 [Conor] <Conor> when something with defender leaves play
0:41:24 [Conor] <Conor> other things with defender still cant attack
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AppleofEris



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read the whole thing, partly outta boredom. You do raise a good point, why would a noob be playing that deck, and YOU be playing Kithkins. Methinks you guys got your decks mixed up.
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Dakkon555



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

your a douchebag.
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Vecc



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That totally gave me teh good laffs.

"THAT JUDGE IS A DUMB ****" & the defender argument ftw.
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Vesuvian



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, just in case you want to link him here:

Conor is wrong. Painter's Servant's ability doesn't last after it leaves play. It's a static ability. Chaotic Backlash doesn't deal 2 dmg for 1 multicolored UW permanent, it would only deal 1. Servant, Borderguard, and other cards that require a decision when they resolve like Pithing Needle, Cranial Extraction, Persecute, etc. cannot be responded to after the initial spell isn't responded to.

And you're a douche for staying in that conversation so long yelling.
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coolcreep



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Flippi is reading this, I just want him to know that I am SOOOOO F***ING TEMPTED RIGHT NOW!
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JohnRambo



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the goal of this post was to demonstrate that you are an ass; I must say that it worked perfectly.
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