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SniperMayer



Joined: 31 Jan 2008
Posts: 290

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not satisfied with the deck itself. You HAVE TO play Gaddock every game to make it viable. It gets Firespout and the others WoG. The manabase is just an other weak point. GL HF beating an 5cc or a QnT with this.
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OldBear



Joined: 12 Apr 2005
Posts: 1840

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you read mulldrifter and cryptic command, never mind the fact there threats are better than yours anyway so trading 1 for 1 does not work.
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ACM
Level 1 Judge


Joined: 03 Jan 2008
Posts: 156

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When saying that you will win the long game by making 1 for 1's with Quick'N'Toast with your aggro list, I hardly believe you even know how to play this game.
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GoneBananas
Level 1 Judge


Joined: 09 Dec 2006
Posts: 329

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems like a lot of suboptimal picks. magma spray wdf? realmrazor???/?

THere arwe a lot of cards u could be running such as fanatic and the other solid one drops. This deck seems like it is too slow for aggro and doesnt even really have burn the the face. My advice take out magma spray for 4 fanatic realmrazor and resounding thunder for 4 incinerate and go from there.
Also id like to see you even win 1 game against QnT
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LONE_GUNMAN



Joined: 02 Feb 2006
Posts: 68

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Realm Razor needs to be your main plan vs QnT. If he is in play without them floating mana, you win.
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[R]Nchamay



Joined: 17 Jul 2008
Posts: 71

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it does work, call it slow and waffle.
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Vesuvian



Joined: 18 Dec 2005
Posts: 63

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't understand how you put 4 Dorans and 4 Thoctars in a deck and didn't put in 4 Birds of Paradise. That seems like the most obvious thing to do. You'd be insane not to. Not only does it help your difficult mana, but a 5 power 2-drop is infinitely better than a 5 power 3-drop.
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ChiDoRiE



Joined: 26 Feb 2008
Posts: 85

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ur "get 1f1'd" plan seems loose against mulldrifter.dec

also they play runed halo..what if u draw 2 thoctar O_O
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varno345



Joined: 14 Feb 2007
Posts: 116

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

-1 doran, +1 realm razor....also tidehollow sculler is extremely effective against 5c toast especially if u couple it with thoughtseize.
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OldBear



Joined: 12 Apr 2005
Posts: 1840

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your only looking at the best case scenario's, you need to look at the worst and realise most games are a balance between the two and generally be more objective.

For example you resolve an early threat, then they eot cryptic command it counter, your next spell, evoke a mulldrifter counter next spell, mannequin mulldrifter and thats basically gg.

Even Turn 3 evoke mulldrifter turn 4 mannequin mulldrifter what do you do then, trading 1 for 1 is not going to work.

Overall alot more needs to go right for this deck to beat QnT than for QnT to beat it.
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