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| What deck should i play at regionals |
| Swath Storm |
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33% |
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| Merfolk |
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noxious770
Joined: 11 Jun 2005
Posts: 40
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 Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:08 pm Post subject: REGIONALS: what to [play |
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heres the proposed deck list:
Swath Storm: MainDeck (60)
Spells
4 Lotus Bloom
4 Rite of Flame
4 Rift Bolt
4 Pyromancer's Swath
4 Grapeshot
4 Shock
4 Tarfire
4 Manamorphose
4 Empty the Warrens
3 Ignite Memories
Lands
9 Mountain
4 Spinerock Knoll
4 Molten Slagheap
4 Fungal Reaches
Side:
3 Smash to Smithereens
2 Sulfurous Blast
4 Dragon's Claw
3 Martyr of Ashes
3 Pact of Negation
UW merfolk:
MainDeck (60)
Creatures
4 Cursecatcher
4 Lord of Atlantis
4 Merrow Reejerey
4 Silvergill Adept
3 Sower of Temptation
3 Stonybrook Banneret
2 Sygg, River Guide
2 Venser, Shaper Savant
Spells
2 Aquitect's Will
3 Cryptic Command
3 Ponder
3 Sage's Dousing
Lands
4 Adarkar Wastes
1 Faerie Conclave
10 Island
4 Mutavault
4 Wanderwine Hub
Side
4 Burrenton Forge-Tender
1 Cryptic Command
2 Reveillark
2 Serrated Arrows
1 Sower of Temptation
3 Sunlance
2 Unsummon
I believe both decks have strong potentional but i coudl use other thoughts |
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gypsy
Joined: 15 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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| play merfolk but make the list better |
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noxious770
Joined: 11 Jun 2005
Posts: 40
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| Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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| how so? |
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Vedrfolner
Joined: 04 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:31 am Post subject: |
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The maindeck Sowers and the Vensers seem out of place. Look at the decklists in the Deck section here at m-l and see what they do. Then tweak them/it slightly to fit your own meta.
If your meta is choke full of GW beatdown etc, Sower main can be good, but it is a bad card vs red decks, gb elves, faeries and suboptimal vs merfolk.
The Merfolk strategy of spewing out critters turn 1-3 then counter and trick ftw is not well supported in your deck, with all those 4-drops. You need Rune Snag imo.
Your sideboard seems suboptimal. You lack Temporal Isolation for instance. The extra Cryptic Command is just a waste of space. Serrated Arrows another 4-drop that doesn't do enough. Reveillark should be main or not there at all. Unsure about Sunlance in this deck. Oblivion Ring is missing from main/side. Wispmare also. Forge-Tender isn't enough vs rdw. You have no Bitterblossom answer. There is much to do with your Merfolk list. Idk if the swath storm list is optimal, but it looks like a swath storm deck should, I think. |
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gypsy
Joined: 15 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:43 am Post subject: |
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| sower is rly good, sunlance is rly good side, forge tender is enough to beat rdw. try a list like this http://www.deckcheck.net/deck.php?id=16785 the numbers in the list you posted are bad, your decks consistency goes down when you have a bunch of 2s and 3s. you dont need oblivion ring or wispmare and reveilark is a good sb card. arrows isnt that good. Vedrfolner has some good points but mostly he doesnt know what hes saying |
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Vedrfolner
Joined: 04 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:14 am Post subject: |
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| gypsy wrote: | | sower is rly good, sunlance is rly good side, forge tender is enough to beat rdw. try a list like this http://www.deckcheck.net/deck.php?id=16785 the numbers in the list you posted are bad, your decks consistency goes down when you have a bunch of 2s and 3s. you dont need oblivion ring or wispmare and reveilark is a good sb card. arrows isnt that good. Vedrfolner has some good points but mostly he doesnt know what hes saying |
With 4-drops I meant casting cost, not numbers. Other than that, the list you posted looks optimal or close to optimal. I forgot Mirrorweave, which is a really good card in this deck. Note that the Russian deck doesn't have Reveillark, Sower and Venser. The 3 slots he dedicated to Psionic Blast could be Sower, Wispmare or a lot of other cards ,depending on your meta (I presume it is an answer to Colossus)
4 Unsummon seems a bit much - what would he side out? all his Ponders? There are room for more options, especially in his sideboard.
Last edited by Vedrfolner on Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:18 am; edited 1 time in total |
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jakeywakey
Joined: 17 May 2007
Posts: 24
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| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:14 am Post subject: |
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| play merfokl but play 4 copies of banneret and 4 sages dousing... and 4 ponder. |
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ckfnpku
Joined: 18 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:25 am Post subject: |
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| Why anyone would play banneret and aquitect's will over sygg and tideshaper is beyond me, especially when not running sower. |
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gypsy
Joined: 15 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:30 am Post subject: |
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| if you dont run banneret your retarded its like one of the best cards, tydeshaper mystic isnt that good. sygg is rly good more people should play him |
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noxious770
Joined: 11 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:50 am Post subject: |
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| Ok so i was thinin of something and this might actually work.... i know merfolk have a decent game against faeries but some HUGE trouble against BG with all the removal (which will prob now be a big portain of the meta when you look how its game aginst faeries is... but when you look at GB remove what is it??? terror,shriekmaw,slaughter pact..... kill non black critter right????.... well i suppose i can drop the serrated arrows (2) and either the sower in the side or the command (prob the command) and put some sexi goodness from shadowmoor in the form of painter's sarvant.... oooo you sided in all your removal pity my dudes are ALL black... shit you cant even kill my muta vaults... sad faces for you.... let me know What you guys think |
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PresRufus
Joined: 07 Mar 2005
Posts: 131
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| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:30 am Post subject: |
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| Could you explain the SB choices for the swatch storm deck, and is taking out ponder really a good call? how is the deck testing with your build over the one that t3ed two trials? |
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gypsy
Joined: 15 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:33 am Post subject: |
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| what are u going to use to cast ponder? |
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kfcman
Joined: 16 Sep 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:30 am Post subject: |
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| gypsy wrote: | | what are u going to use to cast ponder? |
i'd say any of his 19 U producing lands, but that's just me.
EDIT: typos |
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noxious770
Joined: 11 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:57 am Post subject: |
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well the hows he cast ponder thing was for the swath storm (U/r versions) chickenman... but yes merfolk would have no prob casting ponder haha...
as for my ventures with swath storm playin on MWS and FNM its pretty good match up against most the field and i just recently added the pact of negations in the side for faeries merfolk and revilark... the ignite memories in the main is iffy i mean game one against revalirk the new project 420.4534535563453... that some random people are bound to play and even against rouges (yes someone at my FNM plays rogues and the averagin CC in his deck is like 4.3) so yes its ok main but shit in the main against most aggro deck which have no higher CC cards to hit so ignite memories is prob being pushed to the SB and after recent playin around with the U/r version with ponder (yes ponder is an awesome combo card where you find your goodies (hense why its restricted in vintage haha) i just like the Mono red version with nothing but 4's in the main that why youre more then likly goin to hit them anyways.... which is the Key to any long tournament play is consistently the side might change a lil bit to accomondate the graveyard loving combo decks with maybe faerie macarbe but so far from tinkering this is the projected storm.dec ill be playin on saturday (1 because everyone has a side item for the meryfolks, 2 its fast and consisent,3 its damn fun to be johnny combo player *yes i played the old dragonstorm, and before that harvest combo, and teps in extended and 2land belcher in legacy* so let me know about the side... i might lower or drop the number of dragonclaws in the side seeing i have a decent match up against RDW anyways.....
MainDeck (60)
Spells (39)
4 Rift Bolt
4 Grapeshot
4 Rite of Flame
4 Pyromancer's Swath
4 Lotus Bloom
4 Shock
4 Manamorphose
4 Tarfire
4 Empty the Warrens
3 Shard Volley
Lands 21
9 Mountain
4 Fungal Reaches
4 Spinerock Knoll
4 Molten Slagheap
Side
3 Ignite Memories
2 Sulfurous Blast
4 Dragon's Claw (maybe drop for one more pact and 3 faerie macabre)
3 Pact of Negation
3 Martyr of Ashes
Let me know what you guys think??? |
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ckfnpku
Joined: 18 Mar 2008
Posts: 17
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| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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| gypsy wrote: | | if you dont run banneret your retarded its like one of the best cards |
No, it isn't. It's plain bad. It's good with dousing and sower and otherwise total junk. |
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