Ritual Desire

Gerrardfo · Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 325

Ritual Desire, as played by Jelger Wiegersma:
4 Geothermal Crevice
4 Ancient Spring
4 Sulfur Vent
3 Polluted Delta
2 Bloodstained Mire
1 Steam Vents
1 Watery Grave
1 Blood Crypt
1 Swamp
4 Cabal Ritual
4 Rite of Flame
4 Seething Song
4 Burning Wish
3 Mind's Desire
3 Sins of the Past
3 Duress
1 Tendrils of Agony
4 Sensei's Divining Top
4 Careful Study
1 Chain of Vapor
4 Chromatic Star
//Sideboard:
SB: 4 Defense Grid
SB: 1 Shattering Spree
SB: 1 Channel the Suns
SB: 1 Empty the Warrens
SB: 1 Tendrils of Agony
SB: 1 Sins of the Past
SB: 1 Mind's Desire
SB: 1 Duress
SB: 1 Pyroclasm
SB: 2 Chain of Vapor
SB: 1 Hull Breach

Ritual Desire, as played by Raphael Levy:
4 Sulfur Vent
3 Gemstone Mine
4 Geothermal Crevice
4 Tinder Farm
2 Channel the Suns
4 Rite of Flame
4 Darkwater Egg
4 Seething Song
4 Cabal Ritual
2 Infernal Tutor
2 Plunge into Darkness
4 Burning Wish
3 Mind's Desire
3 Sins of the Past
1 Tendrils of Agony
4 Lotus Bloom
4 Chrome Mox
4 Chromatic Star
//Sideboard:
SB: 2 Empty the Warrens
SB: 1 Mind's Desire
SB: 1 Hull Breach
SB: 1 Pyroclasm
SB: 2 Tendrils of Agony
SB: 1 Channel the Suns
SB: 4 Duress
SB: 3 Orim's Chant

How could the deck/sideboard be changed? How could the matchups be improved? Discuss!

Quantumdemon · Joined: 06 May 2006 Posts: 64

// Deck file for Magic Workstation (http://www.magicworkstation.com)
// NAME: Mind's Desire - QD

// Lands
3 [TSB] Gemstone Mine
4 [IN] Sulfur Vent
4 [IN] Ancient Spring
4 [IN] Geothermal Crevice

// Spells
1 [ON] Chain of Vapor
3 [7E] Duress
1 [SC] Tendrils of Agony
3 [SC] Mind's Desire
4 [TSP] Chromatic Star
4 [OD] Careful Study
4 [TSP] Lotus Bloom
1 [FD] Plunge into Darkness
2 [DIS] Infernal Tutor
3 [MR] Chrome Mox
3 [RAV] Sins of the Past
4 [JU] Burning Wish
4 [9E] Seething Song
4 [CS] Rite of Flame
4 [TO] Cabal Ritual

// Sideboard
SB: 1 [PS] Hullbreach
SB: 1 [ON] Chain of Vapor
SB: 1 [7E] Duress
SB: 2 [SC] Tendrils of Agony
SB: 1 [SC] Mind's Desire
SB: 4 [9E] Defense Grid
SB: 1 [GP] Shattering Spree
SB: 1 [FD] Channel the Suns
SB: 1 [9E] Pyroclasm
SB: 2 [TSP] Empty the Warrens

This is what I play :-\

hamslice · Joined: 10 Feb 2007 Posts: 10

/ Lands
3 [TSB] Gemstone Mine
4 [IN] Sulfur Vent
4 [IN] Tinder Farm
4 [IN] Geothermal Crevice

// Spells
1 [ON] Chain of Vapor
1 [SC] Tendrils of Agony
3 [SC] Mind's Desire
4 [TSP] Chromatic Star
4 Darkwater Eggs
3 Sensei's Top
4 [TSP] Lotus Bloom
2 [FD] Plunge into Darkness
2 [DIS] Infernal Tutor
4 [MR] Chrome Mox
2 [RAV] Sins of the Past
4 [JU] Burning Wish
4 [9E] Seething Song
4 [CS] Rite of Flame
4 [TO] Cabal Ritual

// Sideboard
SB: 1 [PS] Hullbreach
SB: 1 [SC] Tendrils of Agony
SB: 1 [SC] Mind's Desire
SB: 1 Sins of the Past
SB: 3 [9E] Defense Grid
SB: 3 Quicken
SB: 1 [FD] Channel the Suns
SB: 1 [9E] Pyroclasm
SB: 3 [TSP] Empty the Warrens

R3wind · Joined: 24 Jul 2006 Posts: 922

I think that Shatering Spree and Chain of Vapor are really important to the Afinity matchup. I would think about one more of each in the sb. Also the deck needs a soild answer to Chant. Not the deck just the spell.

R3wind · Joined: 24 Jul 2006 Posts: 922

// Deck file for Magic Workstation (http://www.magicworkstation.com)

// Lands
4 [IN] Geothermal Crevice
4 [IN] Ancient Spring
4 [IN] Sulfur Vent
4 [IN] Irrigation Ditch

// Spells
4 [CHK] Sensei's Divining Top
4 [TSP] Chromatic Star
4 [OD] Careful Study
4 [TSP] Lotus Bloom
4 [CS] Rite of Flame
4 [TO] Cabal Ritual
4 [MR] Seething Song
3 [FD] Channel the Suns
4 [JU] Burning Wish
3 [RAV] Sins of the Past
3 [SC] Mind's Desire
1 [SC] Tendrils of Agony
1 [ON] Chain of Vapor
1 [TSP] Empty the Warrens

// Sideboard
SB: 1 [FD] Channel the Suns
SB: 1 [RAV] Sins of the Past
SB: 1 [SC] Mind's Desire
SB: 1 [SC] Tendrils of Agony
SB: 1 [TSP] Empty the Warrens
SB: 4 [8E] Defense Grid
SB: 1 [US] Duress
SB: 1 [JU] Cabal Therapy
SB: 1 [GP] Shattering Spree
SB: 1 [IN] Breath of Darigaaz
SB: 1 [PS] Hull Breach
SB: 1 [OD] Decimate

I think that the first think the you will see is the SB changes. I think that Breath of Darigaaz is better in most matchup then Pyroclasm. Decimate is good but can not be played in in every matchup. (it is a good anwser to a Bob with Armadillo Cloak and Umezawa's Jitte on it. That is really scary! ) I am not really sure about the one Cabal Therapy in the SB. It is nice to have also. So anymore thoughts?

R3wind · Joined: 24 Jul 2006 Posts: 922

I can't help but to love this deck but it is one turn to slow to beat Dredge decks. I have the deck tuned to go off on turn three now what am I missing that can improve the deck. For referance this is the most updated list that I am playing. My list is close to a merging of the three lists that I have seen. Here are the links to the lists that I hve referanced for this build.

Mind's Desire by Brian Schneider 1st place 1-6-2008

TEPS by Brandon Scheel, winner Gen Con Extended $1000

TEPS Desire played by Frank Karsten

Here is the list that I made from the merging of the three differant builds and updated sideboard to fight Dredge and Affinty decks. The deck does still have it's flaws (Trickbind and Discard weakness) I think that it's still a strong and budget minded deck choice. (damn the puns)*

http://www.magicworkstation.com

// Lands
4 [IN] Sulfur Vent
4 [IN] Geothermal Crevice
4 [TSB] Gemstone Mine
2 [IN] Ancient Spring
2 [IN] Tinder Farm

// Spells
4 [TSP] Lotus Bloom
4 [MR] Chrome Mox
4 [TSP] Chromatic Star
4 [MR] Chromatic Sphere
4 [CS] Rite of Flame
4 [TO] Cabal Ritual
4 [MR] Seething Song
4 [DIS] Infernal Tutor
4 [JU] Burning Wish
3 [SC] Mind's Desire
2 [FD] Channel the Suns
2 [RAV] Sins of the Past
1 [SC] Tendrils of Agony

// Sideboard
SB: 1 [SC] Mind's Desire
SB: 1 [RAV] Sins of the Past
SB: 1 [SC] Tendrils of Agony
SB: 1 [PS] Hull Breach
SB: 1 [TSP] Empty the Warrens
SB: 3 [PS] Orim's Chant
SB: 3 [DS] Echoing Truth
SB: 4 [TSB] Tormod's Crypt

* HTML links to www.magiccards.info provided for ease of use by the readers of this post. My thanks to the www.magiccards.info team. I would also like to thank all of the other authors of the referanced documents.

CalebD · Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 26

I've played storm a lot, back in T2/old ext/through all its variations in T1/1.5, but I'm not too arrogant to ask questions =P.

1-Why the lone chain of vapor? In T1 CoV is useful for a lot of things, like increasing storm count on your moxen/bouncing Colossus or Orchard to buy a turn/Hitting troublesome artifacts/Meddling Mage/pitchable to FoW. Here it seems very limited, the only really good target I can see for it is MM, and even that seems iffy and not md worthy. Wont chalice be set at 0 and one? As an untutorable one of, isn't it more clunky than anything else, especially with 4x burning wish to grab sb answers?

All things considered, why did people run it in the first place, and why does it still see play? With the prevalence of Dredge, is echoing truth always preferable or only in some cases?

2-Counterbalance is a major player in the current meta. In 1.5, it's almost impossible to deal with, the main strategy is to just try and win before they can cast it, much less likely here in 1.x. Aside from making duress MD more preferable to Orim's chant, how have storm players come to deal with this? Hull breach, while tutorable, is very counterable by the very spell you're trying to hate out!

3- I realize why people have drifted away from Jelger Wiegersma's version, as coming up with double blue while playing it is hard. On the other hand, Careful Study is sick in the deck, increasing the chance of a turn 2/3 kill by quite a lot. Taking out lotus blossom makes UU for desire harder, but it also makes the deck more resilient to artifact kill and chalice. What if we alter the manabase to make UU easier to come across? Then we'd still have the broken turn one careful study ditching desire, turn two rituals/sins win, while not getting screwed quite as often.