Red/Green Goblins

Shadowglyph · Joined: 14 Mar 2008 Posts: 7

4 Mogg Fanatic
2 Scuzzback Scrapper
2 Vexing Shusher
4 Goblin King
4 Boggart Ram Gang
4 Boartusk Liege
2 Siege Gang Commander

4 Dead / Gone
4 Manamorphose
4 Incinerate
2 Browbeat
4 Flame Javelin

20 Mountains

This is a deck I recently put together, it works okay but it seems like it needs to be looked at. I'm not really sure what to change.
I have often thought about splicing green in for Tower Above, but I'm not really sure what I would put in in the way of creatures to support a green/red theme, I could remove the "goblin" theme, but I need some pointers.

Comments on card choices would be nice, and if there are better choices I could make, I'm open to any changes.

Vedrfolner · Joined: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 1121

Tower Above is bad, and it is only playable in monogreen because it is GGG.

Scuzzback Scrapper, Vexing Shusher, Goblin King, Dead/Gone, Manamorphose and Browbeat are all less than impressive cards. Goblin King isn't good enough to warrant only goblins in the deck, and Boartusk Liege is good in R/G not monoR.

Just find a regular RDW deck and look at what they do.

Jacois · Joined: 05 Sep 2004 Posts: 437

If you're going to use Goblin King, use Magus of the Moon as well. It really bones a lot of decks right now as well as providing you with Mountainwalk.

gypsy · Joined: 15 Jun 2007 Posts: 712

BROWBEAT SUCKS!

Jacois · Joined: 05 Sep 2004 Posts: 437

If you're going to use Goblin King, use Magus of the Moon as well. It really bones a lot of decks right now as well as providing you with Mountainwalk.

Shadowglyph · Joined: 14 Mar 2008 Posts: 7

Humm, I thought scrapper might work well because of the Boartusk Liege, getting +2/+2 rather then +1/+1 like a Mogg.
I've never built a Green/Red deck before, so i'm not really sure what I should be looking for. I've done a bit of research however and I'm willing to lose the Goblin theme because I need bigger bodies.
Maybe a few giants and a Deuce of Calamity, scratching the goblin kings, seige gangs and morphs.

If anyone has any suggestions for converting it to a R/G deck, please advice.

Thanks for the help so far and Thanks in advance

Vedrfolner · Joined: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 1121

Yes, but playing Scrapper, a sub-par card, because Boartusk Liege makes it a good card is not as good as playing another GR creature which is better, making it awesome with Liege...

Each card in your deck must be good on its own, and preferably even better along with the other cards. Weak cards almost always makes a weak deck.

http://www.magic-league.com/deck/42357/standard_t2.html#Rg%20Goyfsligh59587

http://www.magic-league.com/deck/41740/standard_t2.html#Rg%20Sligh6961

http://www.magic-league.com/deck/42132/red_deck_wins.html#Red%20Deck%20Wins9399

http://www.magic-league.com/deck/41960/red_deck_wins.html#Red%20Deck%20Wins5211

look at those decks. Be inspired.

ILikeBananas · Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Posts: 132

R/G can go either mana ramp style or old Gruul style aggro.

Browbeat doesn't suck in a pure burn deck. It does suck in aggro decks, meaning it's not for you. In a burn deck, it either does 5 damage, or draws you average of 2 burn spells, which is approximately 4-6 damage. 3 mana for average of 5 damage is good. But not in aggro because you want to spend your turn 3 dropping a nice threat.

Manamorphose doesn't do anything. Picture the scenario where you have no cards in hand and you top deck a manamorphose or only have manamorphose in your hand. Why not just play a 2 drop instead? It's not like you need the mana fixing or the storm count.

I'd put vexing shusher on the SB. He's just a bear in more than half your match ups.

No tatturmunge maniac? it has synergy with liege and is a decent 1 drop like mogg.

I like the idea of magus of the moon. Try it out.

If you want to go the big mana approach, just look at some tourney results.

Acid_Christ · Joined: 28 Aug 2004 Posts: 432

-2 Browbeat
+2 Giantbaiting

reasonable switch imo.