Panoptic Mirror Q

Svennihilist · Joined: 19 Aug 2007 Posts: 7

Ok say turn one I play a chrome mox and imprint it with a..... searing wind..... or a time stretch or something big and vile. The game excellerates to a turn where I have played a panoptic mirror and it is my upkeep, the time at which i choose to copy an imprinted instant or sorcery:

Imprint - ,x: You may remove an instant or sorcery card with converted mana cost x in your hand from the game. (That card is imprinted on this artifact.)
At the beginning of your upkeep, you may copy an imprinted instant or sorcery card and play the copy without paying its mana cost.

so now my question is; can I choose to copy the instant or sorcery imtprinted on chrome mox. Panoptic clearly says" At the beginning of your upkeep, you may copy an imprinted instant or sorcery card and play the copy without paying its mana cost.
" It doesn't, however, say that you must copy the card imprinted on panoptic mirror, it just says copy an imprinted instant or sorcery card and in that wording should mean I can copy the card imprinted on chrome mox. Can I?

I am way too lazy to look the ruling up and theres probably a very viable answer diclaiming my belief but i thought id ask the good people at Magic-League and get it the easy way.

Wixit · Joined: 27 Jul 2007 Posts: 24

Seriously man, it says it right in the oracle text that the triggered ability can only copy a spell rfg'd and imprinted on the mirror.

Svennihilist · Joined: 19 Aug 2007 Posts: 7

Rules Text (Oracle): Imprint - , : You may remove an instant or sorcery card with converted mana cost X in your hand from the game. (That card is imprinted on this artifact.)
At the beginning of your upkeep, you may copy an imprinted instant or sorcery card. If you do, you may play the copy without paying its mana cost.

that is oracle test from wizards.com you tell me where it says i have to copy the card imprinted on panoptic mirror it only says copy AN imprinted instant or sorcery card not AN instant or sorcery card imprinted on panoptic mirror

HUNGTACTICS · Joined: 30 Mar 2007 Posts: 102

"12/1/2004 As Panoptic Mirror's triggered ability resolves, it allows you to create a copy of one of the Instant or Sorcery cards imprinted on Panoptic Mirror in the removed-from-game zone (that's where the imprinted card is) and then play it without paying its mana cost."
there you go

Thorns · Joined: 16 Aug 2006 Posts: 566 Location: Rath

It's just like that guy not too long ago who asked if he tapped a Llanowar Vanguard for it's ability, if he could give the boost to his untapped Vanguard. And the obvious answer is NO. Cards always refer to themselves when their name is stated in their textbox, unless stated otherwise. The same goes for special abilities like imprint, it only looks at what is imprinted with the mirror.

Svennihilist · Joined: 19 Aug 2007 Posts: 7

Even if, thorns, these are different situations. I do understand that the panoptic mirror cannot copy another card's imprinted card but it was allways a case of the exact text. The text on the vanguard says that llanowar vanguard gets the boost not "a" llanowar vanguard, so its obvious he can only boost himself, but the text on panoptic mirror says "an" imprinted card not "imprinted" card (which would refer solely to panoptic mirror). Saying "an" imprinted card instead of the usual (as refered by llanowar vanguard) "imprinted" gives justifcation for one to think outside the box.

Imprint - , : You may remove an instant or sorcery card with converted mana cost X in your hand from the game. (That card is imprinted on this artifact.)
At the beginning of your upkeep, you may copy an imprinted instant or sorcery card. If you do, you may play the copy without paying its mana cost.

^which is the original text^

Imprint - , : You may remove an instant or sorcery card with converted mana cost X in your hand from the game. (That card is imprinted on this artifact.)
At the beginning of your upkeep, you may copy an instant or sorcery card imprited on this card. If you do, you may play the copy without paying its mana cost.

^Would have made the card raise no doubts^

So because the text on vanguard so clearly means no it cannot target another vanguard because it doesn't say "a llanowar vanguard gets blah blah blah" then the wording on panoptic mirror should mean that it can copy any instant or sorcery on imprinted on any other card unless of course consistancy means nothing to Wizards.

And once again i do realize i was wrong im not trying to fight this still as the oracle text clearly wrecked me just the text difference on the vanguard and the panoptic mirror supports my original belief.

Svennihilist · Joined: 19 Aug 2007 Posts: 7

I'll have my revenge oracle, I'll have my revenge.

iamFrankie · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 24

Im confused, Question

, yeah that confused Question