PC any help to pre pc boros?

SaTiVa · Joined: 09 Jun 2005 Posts: 201

I am playing PV's boros from worlds. I wont post the deck because most people i assume know the list. Bu i was wondering if any one had succes with the (whitemane lion/keldon maruader/calciderm) engine or with adding ld in the form of boom/bust and maby stone rain as well.

AkYo · Joined: 06 Oct 2006 Posts: 186

i didnt play this build but boros can always use an armagedon.. most control decks can't come back from one

Equinox_br · Joined: 04 Sep 2006 Posts: 4

I would add 4 Mana Tithe to the SB to get one turn against Wrtah or counter their Wrath(or Damnation).

Marauders are bad as they are dead creatures....Calciderm is a maybe card...dont know yet. I would use it only if the format become removal heavy again...read Putrefy, Mortify, sudden death, etc

Tird_Ape · Joined: 09 Dec 2006 Posts: 114

I don't know his list and i think other people feel this way. Can you post it?

Markwerf · Joined: 20 May 2006 Posts: 30

mana tithe is a good SB card, not a 4 of i think but a good 3 of against control, counter or delay wrath/teferi etc matters a lot. Keldon marauders is also very good especially in the PV version of boros. It replaces volcanic hammer as its really much better. Equinox may say its a dead creature but thats bullshit, it will always do 2 dmg and early on it will do 5 dmg vs control and even 6 if u have scorched rusalka out as well (4 of in PV list). If the enemy has a creatures out it may not do 5 but then it will block for a turn and then it will trade with a creature of them and do 2 dmg which is better then a volcanic hammer alone as well. THE only case its worse is when control got control of the board and they are at 2 or 3 life and will kill you next turn and they do NOT have a counter.. Since this situation is EXTREMELY rare keldon marauders is surely better then hammer thus it improves boros.
For the rest pc doesnt really give anything, boom//bust is good with flagstones but then u have to play 4x flagstones which will give enormous tempo losses when u draw 2x flagstones and no other land early on. The armageddon side is not so good vs control either as its very unlikely to resolve and non-counter control will have big guys out before you even play it probably, not too mention it fucks up yourself too. If you want lategame spells vs control that use your excess lands play demonfire instead, its MUCH better.

Spyx · Joined: 31 Oct 2004 Posts: 886

^Quality post. Totally agree.

Russell_Nash · Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Posts: 645 Location: Burn Ward

I like mana tithe in sb, puts turn 3/4 WoGs dead in their tracks.

I also like boom/bust in sb. 4 flags main is too much tempo lose imo, honestly. Although id consider testing playing 2 main 2 side and 4 boom/bust in sb. Turn 2 LD is just way too awesome in some matchups.

I feel like Calciderm is pretty weak for boros. I like solifuge better; it does about the same thing, only with haste and trample. Granted it will probably trade with another creature after doing about 6 points. I just feel like there would be a lot of situations where by the time boros has mana for Calciderm your opponent could easily have a large creature or enough weenies to chump block it for a while. I could be wrong I havnâ€™t tested.

I like marauder in some red aggro builds. With rusulka/frenzied Goblin, I really like it.

Depending on how many creatures you play, Dust Elemental could be pretty good. Probably not, but maybe worth a try. I really donâ€™t like the other rescue creatures for constructed though.

Sandro · Joined: 01 Jan 2006 Posts: 77

red akroma isnt that good... I would cut the 2 copies of it and 1 more card for wildfire...

SaTiVa · Joined: 09 Jun 2005 Posts: 201

Russell_Nash · Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Posts: 645 Location: Burn Ward

SaTiVa: could you reformat that list? its kinda messed up

CrippleFight · Joined: 08 Aug 2006 Posts: 65

3 Plains
2 Mountain
4 Sacred Foundry
4 Battlefield Forge
2 Gemstone Mine
3 Boros Garrison
3 Flagstones of Trokair

21 land

4 Giant Solifuge
4 Knight of the Holy Nimbus
4 Savannah Lions
4 Icatian Javelineers
4 Soltari Priest
3 Scorched Rusalka

23 creatures

4 Rift Bolt
4 Char
4 Lightning Helix
4 Volcanic Hammer

16 other spells

2 Paladin en-Vec
2 Worship
3 Honorable Passage
4 Ronom Unicorn
4 Cryoclasm

15 sideboard cards

Russell_Nash · Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Posts: 645 Location: Burn Ward

as far as SB changes, I think you could do

4 mana tithe (really good versatile card)
3 honorable passage (good in mirror)
4 Cryoclasm (keeps them off WOG mana and such and 3 damage is always great)
4 Ronom Unicorn (really donâ€™t know about this guy, past COP:Red theres really no enchantments this deck needs to worry about. Personally Im not seeing many COP reds around, but i guess its better safe then sorry)

Cut worship: I just donâ€™t see this card as that great right now, the only deck that it really does well with is MGA and I think people are starting to figure out that MGA isnâ€™t that good. Granted it can stomp boros but MGA loses against any self respecting board control deck.

Paladin: I really only like this guy when you can beef him up. Hes really good, but hes at his best when hes got 4 or more power. Also hes good with worship, but as stated I donâ€™t feel worship is good enough.

Id also consider playing another flagstone in sb and 4 boom/bust

soundwave123 · Joined: 26 Oct 2006 Posts: 32

It is imparitive that Boros adapts to the current flood of control decks running desert and quicksand. Ghostquarter messes our mana base but stone rain does not. The question you have to ask yourself is how to adapt the deck to add the light addition of land destruction?

Apos · Joined: 24 May 2005 Posts: 733

well i made a rought call took out priest and knight for
Whitemane Lion and Keldon Marauders that made my manabase good and allowed me to play blood moon

anyway whitemane lion is the nutz u can do so much trix with him for example the nice synergy with keldon
and the lion can safe a soltifuge ^^