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lmurdock
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 Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 8:22 am Post subject: Ghostflame Sliver and Mana Costs |
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If an effect changes the color of a spell does it also change the mana cost?
For Example:
I have a Ghostflame Sliver in play and a Sidewinder Sliver in hand. Does the cost of the Sidewinder Sliver change from W to 1?
| Quote: | | Ghostflame Sliver rules text: All slivers are colorless. |
To me that means that the sliver spell in my hand is now colorless. The only thing in the rules I could find was:
| Quote: | 213.5. If an effect changes any characteristics of a spell that becomes a permanent, the effect continues to apply to the permanent when the spell resolves.
Example: If an effect changes a black creature spell to white, the creature is white when it comes into play and remains white for the duration of the effect changing its color. |
I couldnt find where this question was answered. Thanks for your help. |
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CMA-Flippi
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| Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 8:24 am Post subject: |
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Ghostflame Slvier refers to Slivers in play only
All slviers still have their cost: Sidewind Sliver W
405.1. A static ability does something all the time rather than being activated or triggered. The ability isn't played-it just "exists." Such abilities apply only while the ability is on a permanent in play, unless the ability is covered by rule 402.8. |
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ck3gds
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| Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 11:56 am Post subject: |
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| Correct me if I'm wrong, but even though Ghostflame Sliver makes your slivers colourless, the costs remain the same. W is W, not 1. |
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CMA-Flippi
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| Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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| You're totally right., sk3gds |
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Eldar
Joined: 27 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah I think since it's a 2/2 sliver for 2 that it is meant as a downside because I really see no relevance to it other than nonblack spells can target it now or honorable passage or something can't prevent the damage that is really all I see that is relevant to it. Not the best of abilities but serves as a great filler in say r/b block slivers. |
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sonicqaz
Joined: 02 May 2006
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| Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Eldar wrote: | | Yeah I think since it's a 2/2 sliver for 2 that it is meant as a downside because I really see no relevance to it other than nonblack spells can target it now or honorable passage or something can't prevent the damage that is really all I see that is relevant to it. Not the best of abilities but serves as a great filler in say r/b block slivers. |
It let's your Sedge Sliver take on Paladen-En-Vec. |
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kfcman
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| Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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| sonicqaz wrote: | | Eldar wrote: | | Yeah I think since it's a 2/2 sliver for 2 that it is meant as a downside because I really see no relevance to it other than nonblack spells can target it now or honorable passage or something can't prevent the damage that is really all I see that is relevant to it. Not the best of abilities but serves as a great filler in say r/b block slivers. |
It let's your Sedge Sliver take on Paladen-En-Vec. |
not only will it take it on
itll win unless the opp has sum burn shenanigans in hand
but then again
regen ftw! |
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aldaryn
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| Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 12:19 am Post subject: |
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| Yeah, typically "so and so permanent is/are this or that" on a permanent implies the so and so permanents have to be in play before it triggers. That probably made no sense. |
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kendiggy
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| Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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Only until 10th edition come out! |
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