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Malice



Joined: 02 Sep 2004
Posts: 91

PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 6:32 am    Post subject: Dragontron. Reply with quote

Now, many people know about the dragonstorm combo, as well as its biggest flaws.
A. There are cards that completely stop entire combo.
B. Hurts itself by drawing into dragons.

To this I answered with two basic suggestions.

A. Run an alternate win that differs from Dragons
B. Run some way to hardcast dragons.

Now, hardcasting dragons requires a big amount of mana. And using seething songs seems hardly worth it, a mortify makes a 2v1 trade. Tron decks however seem to have no problem doing it. What about tron + dragonstorm.

After building a basic list and testing it, i wasnt happy with the results. I hardly ever got the combo fast enough to match a suspended lotus bloom, and more often then not were pointless. Sure with the right hand i could combo turn 3-4, but not as consistent as other storm decks.

But why do i need to combo on 3-4 turn? Other dragonstorms decks can do that, but against counters, its often stopped. What if i took 2 turns longer, and make sure its going to kill that turn, regardless of what opponent does. That when the idea hit me. Why not run the deck like tron, that CAN combo off on turn 3-4. NEW DECK LIST.

4x Bogarden Hellkites
2x Demonfire
4x Dragonstorm

4x Lotus Bloom
4x Seething song
4x Izzet signet

4x Sleight of hand
4x telling time
4x Compulsive research
4x Remand

4x Urza's tower
4x Urza's mine
4x Urza's powerplant
4x steam vents
4x shivan reef
1x island(ghost quarter)
1x mountain(see Island)

Now, if you try to run this deck like storm, you are going to lose and lose bad. Run the deck like a tron deck that has the ability to combo off on turn 4. GL PPLS!
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zebo_88



Joined: 12 Sep 2005
Posts: 123
Location: Phyrexia

PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nah...its really difficult to have all the 3 lands so early, and if u manage to do this u will also have harsh color problems...and casting the big spellz without accelerators cracks the storm; and having one hellkite on turn four really does nothing...there's no deck without solution at that turn and the maximum u can hope to do is to kill 2 (3 if u're really lucky) creatures and attack your opponent once.
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DRINKALCOHOL



Joined: 28 Mar 2006
Posts: 264
Location: New Gunsqu

PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah. And you forgot hunted dragon.
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Craze



Joined: 30 Jan 2005
Posts: 5676
Location: Indiana, U

PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tron dstorm sucks like hell, and all your problems normal dstorm can answer for itself....

counters and COP: Red? Gigadrowse

Draw a dragon? 3 Hellkites and a Hunted Dragon
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tato-



Joined: 22 Oct 2005
Posts: 126
Location: Colombia

PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats crap...RU dstorm and Tron dstorm. Gay decks.

SB
Circle of Protection: Red
Honorable Passage
Trickbind, remand, cancel, etc
Magus of the Mirror
Stupor, castigate, Persecute, etc

There are a lot of cool cards vs Dragonstorm...
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zebo_88



Joined: 12 Sep 2005
Posts: 123
Location: Phyrexia

PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tato- wrote:
Thats crap...RU dstorm and Tron dstorm. Gay decks.

SB
Circle of Protection: Red
Honorable Passage
Trickbind, remand, cancel, etc
Magus of the Mirror
Stupor, castigate, Persecute, etc

There are a lot of cool cards vs Dragonstorm...


ok its true but wth does magus help?
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Bushviper



Joined: 07 Aug 2006
Posts: 281

PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Befor the last helkite comes into play you switch life totals putting them at 5 and you at 15
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ant900



Joined: 11 Oct 2004
Posts: 2525
Location: somewhere

PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tato- wrote:

Magus of the Mirror
.

rtfc
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Doobie_Man



Joined: 16 Jun 2006
Posts: 40

PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bushviper wrote:
Befor the last helkite comes into play you switch life totals putting them at 5 and you at 15

that shitty magus switches at UPKEEP ONLY
and dstorm should go off b4 u can play and activate it
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