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Amoeba-
Joined: 28 Apr 2006
Posts: 69
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 Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 5:04 pm Post subject: Is Owling Mine viable in Vintage? |
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I've been toying with decklists for the upcoming Vintage Master and I'm not sure what deck to run.
Here's just an idea I had and post some thoughts thanks.
4 Volcanic Island
4 Flooded Strand
3 Island
4 Wasteland
1 Strip Mine
1 Library of Alexandria
1 Darksteel Colossus
4 Howling Mine
4 Ebony Owl Netsuke
4 Force of Will
4 Brainstorm
4 Boomerang
1 Timetwister
1 Time Spiral
1 Tinker
1 Hurkyl's Recall
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Black Lotus
1 Mana Crypt
1 Sol Ring
1 Prosperity
1 Memory Jar
1 Wheel of Fortune
1 Windfall
1 Echoing Truth
3 Arcane Laboratory
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Chain of Vapor
Sideboard
1 Arcane Laboratory
3 Energy Flux
2 Orb of Dreams
3 Tormod's Crypt
3 Pyroclasm
2 Red Elemental Blast
1 Pithing Needle
Please constructive criticism only. |
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NahHolmes
Joined: 13 Jan 2005
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| Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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| This deck has absolutely zero chance in Vintage. It's not even good in T2, but seriously in vintage if your opponent has 7 cards in hand for even one turn they are probobly just going to go apeshit on you. |
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Amoeba-
Joined: 28 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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Ok.
I was just spit ballin. |
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nephilim206
Joined: 14 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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| That didn't sound like constructive criticism. Negativity will only get you negativity. So if you're going to say something like that, follow it up with some suggestion. |
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Amoeba-
Joined: 28 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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Don't worry about it nephilim206.
What bugs me is when some jackass comes in screaming and flaming about nothing, then pm's me about how I should slit me wrists.
That's what pisses me off. |
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NahHolmes
Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Posts: 588
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| Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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| nephilim206 wrote: | | That didn't sound like constructive criticism. Negativity will only get you negativity. So if you're going to say something like that, follow it up with some suggestion. |
OK, here's a suggestion, don't play Owling Mine in any format if you like winning. Making your opponents draw cards in Vintage isn't a strategy, it's suicide. |
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Anti-Christ
Joined: 13 Feb 2006
Posts: 46
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| Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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LMFAO...
excuse me...hahahahahahaha
No but seriously.....rotfl!
T1 decks can drop their hand 1st turn, combo out with storm, lol what the hell, play with the deck on mws.play and see for yourself.
Not being mean, just basically what this deck will do is do nothing but help your opponent win. He'll probably goldfish faster playing against you lol. |
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Momoshiro
Joined: 21 Aug 2005
Posts: 50
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| Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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| i dont agree with owl be horrible in all formats, although it is true what _Osiris_ said but i have an owling mine in t2 and have won hundreds of MFN and tournaments, Ameoba try owl in extended i have one and its better than in t2. |
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launamleto
Joined: 12 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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| NahHolmes wrote: | | nephilim206 wrote: | | That didn't sound like constructive criticism. Negativity will only get you negativity. So if you're going to say something like that, follow it up with some suggestion. |
OK, here's a suggestion, don't play Owling Mine in any format if you like winning. Making your opponents draw cards in Vintage isn't a strategy, it's suicide. |
odd coming from somone whos complete shit. |
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Dr_Moo
Joined: 26 Nov 2004
Posts: 950
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| Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Man. Why do people keep trying to port Owling Mine? It was a metagame deck. It is good against precisely one kind of deck, in precisely one format. It does not work everywhere. It does not work anywhere. It is awful in every format right now. It would be complete and utter dreck in Vintage. There is no way to be constructive here; it has no chance of being even remotely competitive at any level of Vintage. |
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NahHolmes
Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Posts: 588
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| Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 12:40 am Post subject: |
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| launamleto wrote: | | NahHolmes wrote: | | nephilim206 wrote: | | That didn't sound like constructive criticism. Negativity will only get you negativity. So if you're going to say something like that, follow it up with some suggestion. |
OK, here's a suggestion, don't play Owling Mine in any format if you like winning. Making your opponents draw cards in Vintage isn't a strategy, it's suicide. |
odd coming from somone whos complete shit. |
Ah where to start... Your less then impressive ratings, your relentless flaming on the forums, or the likely fact that you are a fucking loser in real life... |
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TD
Joined: 19 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 2:01 am Post subject: |
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| The problem is that owl is just kind of bad; it needs a lot of cards (7) and in vintage, due to artifact mana, that's hard to maintain. Black Vise could deal a lot more damage and is cheaper; it is also restricted. Maybe if you could run 4x Vice AND 4x Owl it might be semi-viable, but even so it seems the kill would probably be too slow. What you'd really need for a deck like that is a powerful, aggressive creature which draws your opponents cards yet is very cheap. |
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Gawd
Joined: 31 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 6:00 am Post subject: 1 card a turn isnt good for vintage :) |
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| arcane lab is good in vintage...stops all those decks that like to "combo out on first turn" so if u really want it to stand a chance u almost definitely have to get one on first turn + a force of will...btw there is a white one too...rule of law i believe...a lil bit of constructive criticism for ya =/ |
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NahHolmes
Joined: 13 Jan 2005
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| Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 8:30 am Post subject: |
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| TD wrote: | | The problem is that owl is just kind of bad; it needs a lot of cards (7) and in vintage, due to artifact mana, that's hard to maintain. Black Vise could deal a lot more damage and is cheaper; it is also restricted. Maybe if you could run 4x Vice AND 4x Owl it might be semi-viable, but even so it seems the kill would probably be too slow. What you'd really need for a deck like that is a powerful, aggressive creature which draws your opponents cards yet is very cheap. |
If you could run 4x Vise then you could just drop Vise and combo into a chain of Prosperitys and they would die on their upkeep kinda like the decks that got Vise restricted in the first place. |
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