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Visara



Joined: 17 Jan 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 9:17 pm    Post subject: New Coldsnap angel Reply with quote

Wow. This card is amazing

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=mtgcom/daily/aa234
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C-Board



Joined: 26 Dec 2004
Posts: 131

PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what exactly do you see in this card =\ it is not that good outside of limited
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iKe



Joined: 14 Dec 2005
Posts: 524
Location: New York

PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea I don't find it that amazing... But It'll work good with wrath and that new Sunscour card.

EDIT: I didn't see it had vigilance at first... Still not amazing but yea pretty good Definitly not as bad as Tom_Cruise is making it out as)


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Visara



Joined: 17 Jan 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do I see in the card? It's only good in limited?

Okay, let's see. It's a 4/5 flier for 6 that doesn't tap to attack...leaving it untapped for you in case a creature you control dies - you tap the angel and get your creature right back.

It's a 4/5 flier for 6 that doesn't tap to attack, leaving it untapped for when your opponent attacks, you block with the angel, put damage on the stack and tap it to steal their creature.

End of turn, you Mortify their Kokusho, tap your angel targeting the Kokusho and when your turn starts, you've got a 4/5 angel and a 5/5 dragon that don't have summoning sickness. Yeah, you're right...she's terrible!

It's a 4/5 flier for 6 - and if you've got 2 in play, their abilities keep the other alive. You'll always have one in play as long as they don't have a global effect.

If you honestly don't see the awesomeness of this card and see that it will be played a LOT in contructed, not just limited, then I'm sorry, but maybe you need to read the card again.


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C-Board



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok, tell us that when it sits in the 1$ binder at your local card shop in 3 months
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Visara



Joined: 17 Jan 2005
Posts: 53

PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, now you're just being a smartass for the sake of arguing. You know this card will not be a dollar crap rare.

You're just being an ignorant teenager.



P.S. I'm saving everything you're saying about how bad this card is so in a few months, when it's played all over the place in numerous 1st place decks, I can copy/paste all your remarks and use them as my quit message in Mirc. Smile

Please, give me more idiotic statements!

Remember, Visara the Dreadful was a crap rare and everyone thought it sucked for a while until people actually started playing with it and realized what a bomb she was.
Same with Niv-Mizzet.


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sonicqaz



Joined: 02 May 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love this card. People who thought Dark Depths would see some play in U/W just got told no by this beautiful card. This is a wonderful win condtion for control decks.

It won't see play? This is in the same color as Wrath of God! Since you should have 4 mana in play if you have this angel in play, you can tap her, target the next best thing on the board, Wrath, and then get a free swing at your opponent. Just one of many things that makes this card great for t2.

In limited, this could be the best card in a long while.
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ElvishGod



Joined: 12 May 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

also, if a creature is sacrificed, you can keep it on the table Smile


i think there might be something fancy there...
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belcharger



Joined: 06 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

its ok but it cost is high Cool
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brottor



Joined: 01 Oct 2004
Posts: 439

PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ElvishGod wrote:
also, if a creature is sacrificed, you can keep it on the table Smile



i think there might be something fancy there...


Sakura!

belcharger wrote:
its ok but it cost is high Cool

hm maybe GWB..aggro? Smile


-so when's coldsnaps realese date? or hasn't been said yet? sry i don't play magic THAT much Sad just like every other friday..
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PolarBearGod



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Posts: 36

PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I have to agree with Visara. That ability is strong and to me it seems to work well with maybe Wildfire. Burndown the land, off some creatures, take what you want back to the field. The five ass is a nice thing in a world of Chars, Wildfires, and numerous 4 powered beaters. Combos are already forming in my head - maybe something with Kiki-Jiki (while we still have him around) or Intruder Alarm in extended. At worst maybe a consideration in Tooth? Anywho, the card is certainly not bad and I'll make the same offer I did to all those who doubted me on Ghost Council (which I made a hefty profit on). I'll offer $2 a piece for them. At the very very worst, it's an angel card with a snazzy ability and that always sells for more than $2.

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synch987



Joined: 31 Mar 2006
Posts: 256

PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it doesnt fit into aggro by any stretch of the imagination, and it just must have better alternatives for control (windreaver, SSS), i think it is just a limited bomb and will see some casual constructed play.
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KingOfAngels



Joined: 31 May 2006
Posts: 5

PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 4:20 am    Post subject: huh? Reply with quote

Visara wrote:
Okay, now you're just being a smartass for the sake of arguing. You know this card will not be a dollar crap rare.

You're just being an ignorant teenager.



P.S. I'm saving everything you're saying about how bad this card is so in a few months, when it's played all over the place in numerous 1st place decks, I can copy/paste all your remarks and use them as my quit message in Mirc. Smile

Please, give me more idiotic statements!

Remember, Visara the Dreadful was a crap rare and everyone thought it sucked for a while until people actually started playing with it and realized what a bomb she was.
Same with Niv-Mizzet.


I didnt know that Niv-Mizzet was a bomb. i must be lost some where. As far as i know i have only seen him be efectivly used in casual play not competative. You cant compare these 2 cards beacuse they are totally diffrent. you might as well compare it to somthing in its color like Blazing archon.
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ShadowS



Joined: 03 Mar 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 5:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This card will be even stronger I think when Kami rotates out. Other than SSS, it'll be one of the more popular queen of the skys.
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ElvishGod



Joined: 12 May 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 6:03 am    Post subject: Re: huh? Reply with quote

KingOfAngels wrote:

I didnt know that Niv-Mizzet was a bomb. i must be lost some where. As far as i know i have only seen him be efectivly used in casual play not competative.


You, sir, are a total dumbass. Your sarcasm is outranked by your stupidity.
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