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ShadowS
Joined: 03 Mar 2006
Posts: 161
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 Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 3:20 pm Post subject: Bloodband March |
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I'm at this card again, and being the wanna be rogue deck user that I am, I'm going to throw every attempt I can at making this card work.
I'm looking for advice. You may reply with "This deck is crap", I may be inclined to agree. But in our t2, anything CAN become good.
Last time I did this, there were some cards I believe I had overlooked, and a colour I should have splashed:
1. Floating Dream Zubera.
Go to the graveyard, get me a card? Well, it only costs 2, so at the early stages of the game, it = free chump block, much like ye ol Sakura has been doing for how long.
2. Nantuko Husk.
Now last time I just had dimir as my engine. I mean, face it, you transmute him, get bloodband, then pop him out again. In any ideas for a bloodband deck hes it's left hand man. But Nantuko here is an alternative win condition, and should wisely be considered.
Then there is a new card, very nicely made for bloodband..
3. Coiling Oracle
ANOTHER chump block, free, can put a land into play or cards in your hand. This is one of THE best cards to cycle in the game period.
So now my list of basic's looks like this:
4 Rav Rats
4 Dimir House
4 Sakura
4 Coiling Oracle
4 Floating Dream Oracle
3 Nantuko
3 Bloodband
2 Kokoshu
As you can see, the point so far is chump block (or let them get removed, really, it makes no matter). Grab either a house gaurd or a bloodband and get it into play, then combo kill. Last ditch effort, play kokoshu and attack ftw while chump blocking.
But this outline is only 28 cards, and I think the last 10-12 cards will make or break this deck. Where to I wanna spend those slots?
I'm eligible for counter spells. I'm eligible for putrefy. I can put in mana acceleration such as BoP. Bigger blocker such as Carven (Which I really only like playing if I have BoP). Do I need life gain vs Gruul beats? Highway Robber? Infectious host? Bile Urchin? Centuar Safegaurd? Repeal? Other Zubera's?
Note to those who want to make a fun casual deck for a cheap cost, I've only used 2 rares, and kokoshu doesn't need to make the cut. |
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the_guy_123
Joined: 08 Jun 2005
Posts: 130
Location: Quebec
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| Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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Shambling Shell was the first creature I put in my Bloodbond March deck. I played a Savra-Shell-March engine that did the job pretty well. You might want to play Reclaim or Recollect just in case the March gets Mortified. I highly Recomend Putrefy for this deck.
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Insanity
Joined: 11 Apr 2006
Posts: 164
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| Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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1) You can't spell the card you're trying to build the deck around
2) The card works for your opponents, meaning you will get obliterated by actual aggro decks.
3) Any non-aggro decks in the format run either:
a) Countermagic
b) Enchantment removal
Meaning: You lose to every conceivable matchup. |
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Superdood
Joined: 16 Jan 2006
Posts: 310
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| Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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| He's right, bloodbond = not good in this current meta, WAY TOO MUCH REMOVAL, combo is hardly viable now... |
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ShadowS
Joined: 03 Mar 2006
Posts: 161
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| Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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1. Valid, BloodbOnd.
2. What part of chump block was beyond your grasp? If you think that an enemy deck would have more synergy than a deck MADE for bloodbond, your crazy.
3. a) A problem for just about any deck in the game. Next your gonna say that heartbeat is impossible because of counters. Do you relize I'm ALSO running blue?
b) First off, how many tier 1 decks do you count that run mass enchant removal? Most control decks either counter, or remove your hand. There are the odd decks with Naturalize in the SB. So change your game plan, drop it after the rest of what you want is on the table. |
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Insanity
Joined: 11 Apr 2006
Posts: 164
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| Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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| ShadowS wrote: |
2. What part of chump block was beyond your grasp? If you think that an enemy deck would have more synergy than a deck MADE for bloodbond, your crazy. |
Great, so your strategy is to chump-block, never kill their creatures, and THEN die.
Good plan.
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a) A problem for just about any deck in the game. Next your gonna say that heartbeat is impossible because of counters. Do you relize I'm ALSO running blue? |
No it isn't. Considering how scantly countermagic is played, it's not hurtful unless you rely on one card. Like you do. Who in their right mind is going to waste a counterspell on anything in your deck besides kokusho, husk and bloodbond march? Nobody, that's who.
Also, you may be "playing blue", but considering that you have no decklist and you're running 28 non-counter cards, and are playing 3 colors....
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b) First off, how many tier 1 decks do you count that run mass enchant removal? Most control decks either counter, or remove your hand. |
Mass enchantment removal? Name me a control deck that doesn't use mortify or counterspells. You only have 3 bloodbond marches, and once again; the mortifys won't be used on any of your other crud. |
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ShadowS
Joined: 03 Mar 2006
Posts: 161
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| Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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Non-mortify control decks:
UW Control
Magnivore or any other Izzet deck
BW aggro control
The rarer, but occasionally seen UB control
Rakdos control
Thats off the top of my head.
If Counter is the biggest problem, SB for it. Or make the other 12 cards adjust for that fact. Which is why I made this thread.
But thats for your uncreative, narrowminded reply. It was both unhelpful and a waste of my time. |
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Insanity
Joined: 11 Apr 2006
Posts: 164
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| Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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| ShadowS wrote: | Non-mortify control decks:
UW Control
Magnivore or any other Izzet deck
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I said counterspells OR mortify. Guess which one those use.
Wait, what? BW doesn't use mortify? Put the crack pipe down.
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The rarer, but occasionally seen UB control
Rakdos control |
I figured the qualifier of name a "good deck"... was implied. Apparently not. |
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Superdood
Joined: 16 Jan 2006
Posts: 310
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| Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Insanity wrote: | | ShadowS wrote: |
2. What part of chump block was beyond your grasp? If you think that an enemy deck would have more synergy than a deck MADE for bloodbond, your crazy. |
Great, so your strategy is to chump-block, never kill their creatures, and THEN die.
Good plan.
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a) A problem for just about any deck in the game. Next your gonna say that heartbeat is impossible because of counters. Do you relize I'm ALSO running blue? |
No it isn't. Considering how scantly countermagic is played, it's not hurtful unless you rely on one card. Like you do. Who in their right mind is going to waste a counterspell on anything in your deck besides kokusho, husk and bloodbond march? Nobody, that's who.
Also, you may be "playing blue", but considering that you have no decklist and you're running 28 non-counter cards, and are playing 3 colors....
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b) First off, how many tier 1 decks do you count that run mass enchant removal? Most control decks either counter, or remove your hand. |
Mass enchantment removal? Name me a control deck that doesn't use mortify or counterspells. You only have 3 bloodbond marches, and once again; the mortifys won't be used on any of your other crud. |
ALL I FUCKING PLAY IS UW CONTROL.
Don't tell me that counter magic isn't rampant, if that was the case I'd be happy, but I always play decks that DESTROY aggro, and I ALWAYS end up playing against CONTROL. |
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ShadowS
Joined: 03 Mar 2006
Posts: 161
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| Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Sure glad I made this thread. |
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Insanity
Joined: 11 Apr 2006
Posts: 164
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| Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Superdood wrote: |
ALL I FUCKING PLAY IS UW CONTROL.
Don't tell me that counter magic isn't rampant, if that was the case I'd be happy, but I always play decks that DESTROY aggro, and I ALWAYS end up playing against CONTROL. |
Good for you?
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=anecdotal%20evidence |
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synch987
Joined: 31 Mar 2006
Posts: 266
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| Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 2:33 am Post subject: |
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| am i the only one who saw the bloodbond march, leyline of singularity combo? |
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