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Vodka_drink
Joined: 13 Mar 2005
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 Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 7:26 am Post subject: Decks to beat |
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Since the there are a few big T2 tornys soon what do people think are the best decks in T2 i personaly i think heartbeat is the best deck in standard now
vodka
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sui_slush
Joined: 19 Apr 2005
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| Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 9:49 am Post subject: |
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| Husk. |
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onecleanceli
Joined: 27 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 10:13 am Post subject: |
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heartbeat
vore
husk
ghost dad
gruul
some form of zoo, you'll see, if in the right hands
possible WW
havent seen much of bwg lately, not sure about it
muc
you'll see some good rogue decks im sure
some people trying to play combo (kiki-husar maybe)
might see some RDW
i think this big season of t2 coming up is going to have the most variety of t1 decks in a long time, be prepared for everything, but more so im seeing alot of different aggro out there |
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TugaChampion
Joined: 26 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 10:45 am Post subject: |
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| There are also other good forms of B/W besides Husk and Ghost Dad, one of them being Hand in Hand. Maybe Howling Mine. Mono Red with Blood Moon MD might surprise everyone and get some wins. Sea Stompy is pretty good. And Greater Good Gifts/Greater Good non-gifts are decent. Some of these are not top but they are equal or better than WW and muc. I've seen some good kiki combos (not just husar but also loxodon hierach and others). The rest of the your list is good. |
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Grimmjow
Joined: 02 Feb 2006
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| Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 11:52 am Post subject: |
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| r/u magnivore > husk |
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Visara
Joined: 17 Jan 2005
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| Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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I have never lost to Husk. Not one time and I've played against it 15 or so times.
Vore is very strong.
Greater Good loses to Kami of Ancient Law, Pithing Needle and a number of other enchantment killers. I don't like it.
Heartbeat is good if they're not playing against counters or sideboarded Extractions.
I believe the best deck out there at the moment is either Vore or Gruul Aggro. |
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kfcman1084
Joined: 14 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Heartbeat is good if they're not playing against counters |
u forget that hearbeat plays its own set of counters |
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affinity2412
Joined: 31 May 2005
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| Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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| kfcman1084 wrote: | | Quote: | | Heartbeat is good if they're not playing against counters |
u forget that hearbeat plays its own set of counters |
yes, but 4 muddle the mixture's and 4 remands at most |
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blaster27r
Joined: 12 Feb 2006
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| Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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| I think Gruul is going to be the best deck because it beats vore and combo which are going to be like the most played decks. It owns u/w agro and 50 50 with control. |
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Re-Venge
Joined: 31 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Visara wrote: | I have never lost to Husk. Not one time and I've played against it 15 or so times.
Vore is very strong.
Greater Good loses to Kami of Ancient Law, Pithing Needle and a number of other enchantment killers. I don't like it.
Heartbeat is good if they're not playing against counters or sideboarded Extractions.
I believe the best deck out there at the moment is either Vore or Gruul Aggro. |
hmmm, first of all greater good runs wrath vs kami, and has putrefy main deck and pithing needle is not played main deck even. you forget to realize that greater good can win with dragons too, and can still lock even when you have one enchantment removal. its not that fragile...
vore is one of the worst decks to play. the only times it wins is when it is on the play and god draws, otherwise any decent deck out there could beat it.
heartbeat has answers to counters, like using gigadrowze, and extraction is solved by those MD counters.
on to my real argument... this format is all about having a deck that is prepared for a diverse metagame. a deck that is focused on beating any particular deck or subtype of deck will not do well (UR vore, owling mine, WUR control). Your best option is to take a deck that has decent matchups all around, and use your play skill to just outplay your opponents for the win. |
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Insanity
Joined: 11 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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Heartbeat is good against gruul/zoo, but is not very good against B/W aggro or control decks (be it counter, discard or removal). With heartbeat on the table, you're giving control whole new ways to play their hand full of answers, and considering your hand is mostly the combo with maybe one counter, you will lose.
There's a reason heartbeat didn't go all that far last time, and people weren't even expecting it then. Now they do, which makes it even worse for heartbeat. |
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