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Kholdstare
Joined: 30 Apr 2005
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 Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 2:14 pm Post subject: Necropotence anyone?? |
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One of my favorite things to do in magic is take older decks and find a way to make a replica of that deck and play it in today's environment. One of my favoite decks of all time was Necropotence. To be exact, my favorite Necro deck was played by Brian Davis at PT: Chicago in 1999. I saw just how powerful that deck was, and I really wanted to play it in this environment. Here's Brian's list from way back in 1999....
CREATURES (2)
2 Skittering Skirge
SPELLS (36)
4 Contagion
4 Corrupt
4 Duress
4 Dark Ritual
3 Demonic Consultation
4 Drain Life
4 Necropotence
2 Nevinyrral's Disk
3 Spinning Darkness
4 Unmask
LAND (22)
18 Swamp
4 Wasteland
SIDEBOARD
2 Dystopia
2 Nevinyrral's Disk
2 Perish
3 Persecute
3 Planar Void
3 Powder Keg
As we all know, none of those cards are legal in T2 right now. (Yes I know swamp...shut up). Basically his deck was made to empty there hand, get immense amounts of cards with Necropotence, and gain the life back and deal damage to your opponent at the same time. Here's my list (still in progress....and theres no SB yet.)
4x Douse In Gloom
4x Dark Confidant
4x Phyrexian Arena
4x Hypnotic Specter
4x Distress
3x Swallowing Plague
4x Consume Spirit
4x Eradicate
4x Last Gasp
4x Soul Feast
21x Swamp
The way I like to rebirth decks is to find the modern equivelent. Here's the rundown
Necropotence - Phyrexian Arena/Dark Confidant
Duress/Unmask- Distress/Hypnotic Specter
Spinning Darkness- Swallowing Plague/Last Gasp/Soul Feast
Corrupt/Drain Life- see above
Im missing some effects such as massive removal and the search ability from Disk and Demonic Consultation. I feel though i have enough removal and enough card drawing engines that the both are made up for.
I'm sure I'll get harsh critisisms (i cant speel) but the more i get the better! (sb suggestions will be great also) thank in advance!! |
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Void06
Joined: 31 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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| play more land. 21 is not nearly enough. I'm npot sure even 23 would be enough for that deck |
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ElvishGod
Joined: 12 May 2005
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| Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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| there was an enchantment i thought to be a really weak necropotence, i forget what it was in dis |
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RichardDWade
Joined: 20 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Plague Boiler anyone? Pretty much a Larry Nevin's Disk. Anyway, I really like this idea, and I too remember that deck.. It was around the same time as The deadly insect/barbed sextant deck that I often reference... Those were the days. |
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Dr_Moo
Joined: 26 Nov 2004
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| Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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The card is Nihilistic Glee. It's definitely interesting, but it probably won't work in this format.
Confidant and Arena are both great cards, but there closer to Ohpidian or Jayemade Tome than to Necropotence. Confidant/Arena give you a big advantage in the long term, Necro does immediately. |
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ElvishGod
Joined: 12 May 2005
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| Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Dr_Moo wrote: | The card is Nihilistic Glee. It's definitely interesting, but it probably won't work in this format.
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yaya thats it |
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Kholdstare
Joined: 30 Apr 2005
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| Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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| the plague boiler looks good. perhaps i can work in golgari signets and that card. i will prolly take out the eradicates and some other stuff for golgari signets and the boiler. i think i need more land too, but im not sure what i will take out for land.. any suggestions? |
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RichardDWade
Joined: 20 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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| the signets and boiler do not mix. I like quicksand in this monochrome deck. |
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chillllll
Joined: 23 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 6:47 am Post subject: |
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the cards that u are running over the cards from the older necro deck are alot more expensive mana wise. Your deck would be about 2x slower than the decklist that u showed us. u dont have dark rit either.
Plague boiler would kill confidant and arena making it retarded.
I think u need to splash a color. There are alot of guild colors that u could use if u used a color. White would give u some pretty sexy removal. Green would give u mana acceleration and putrefy. Red would give u more discard. U could U-b aggro with blue.
Nihilistic glee would be crazy if u could get it too work. I dont think u could though. |
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Antilles
Joined: 29 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 8:18 am Post subject: |
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hmmmm...that remebers me of my old
HackerPotence Revival list:
"Hackerpotence", Brian Hacker, #1 in Swiss, Pro Tour Dallas '96 (Type II)
Creatures (19)
4 Black Knight
4 Knight of Stromgald
4 Order of the Ebon Hand
3 Erg Raiders
4 Hypnotic Specter
Spells (17)
2 Necropotence
4 Bad Moon
1 Hymn to Tourach
4 Choking Sands
2 Terror
2 Contagion
1 Drain Life
1 Nevinyrral's Disk
Mana (24)
3 Dark Ritual
1 Strip Mine
4 Mishra's Factory
16 Swamp
Hacker II
Creatures (19)
4 Hand of Cruelty
4 Dark Confidant
4 Nezumi Cutthroat
3 Skullsnatcher
4 Hypnotic Specter
Spells (1
2 Phyrexian Arena
4 Umezawa's Jitte
1 Persecute
4 Distress
2 Horobi's Whisper
2 Sickening Shoal
1 Consume Spirit
1 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Darkblast
Mana (23)
19 Swamp
1 Tomb of Urami
1 Mikokoro, Center of the Sea
2 Quicksand
It was even Pre-GP.
Just to throw in random ideas. |
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Kholdstare
Joined: 30 Apr 2005
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| Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 11:47 am Post subject: |
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i see your point in that boiler would be bad because it blows up confidant and arena. however, so did disk. and brian davis actaully used the disk in one case to blow up the necro and get his draw phase back ( not to mention he killed a sylvan library). i know thats really a desperation move, but he also had the option.
quicksand seems a1 super awesome. i believe that should fit in the deck. the question is how many do i run?
if we did add another color, i would vote for white becuase of wrath and faiths fetters. not to mention castigate.
making this into a brian hacker type necro deck is the complete opposite of what im (were) trying to make this deck. im not saying your idea is bad, but its just not how i want this deck to function.
keep the ideas coming guys, im really looking foward to making some changes as soon as we can decide whether we will splash a color (and which color) or not. i really appreciate your help! |
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Apos
Joined: 24 May 2005
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| Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 3:37 am Post subject: Re: Necropotence anyone?? |
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wow nice thread dude
well here is my suggestion/s...
| Kholdstare wrote: |
4x Douse In Gloom
4x Dark Confidant
4x Phyrexian Arena
4x Hypnotic Specter
4x Distress
3x Swallowing Plague
4x Consume Spirit
4x Eradicate
4x Last Gasp
4x Soul Feast
21x Swamp
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-4 Douse In Gloom (a bad spell)
-2 dark confidant ( to much cc especial with my suggestions)
-4 specter (dunno)
-3 swallowing plague( another bad spell from my sight)
-1 eradicate(well if u hit black opponent u really dont want to have 4 dead cards stick 1 or even 2 to the sb)
-4 soul feast (just a bad 5cc burn in my opinion)
-1last gasp
ok here we go amazing 19 slots
+4 Sickening Shoal (very good card synergy with the draw stuff, and defenetly the modern Contagion and it can remove the dead eradicates if u play vs black opponent)
+1 Death of a Thousand Stings ( well Corrupt is not t2 so we have to look at the other choices.. in my opinion this as 1 off is cool and fits perfect in the deck and the deck theme cool name too  )
+3 Kokusho, the Evening Star (obv)
+1 Nightmare Void ( a 5th disstress that u can recrut back and never underistimate the fact that u can let him dicard a land card with nightmare void )
+1 Exile into Darkness(well swallowing plauge and gloom are funny and so but they arent very good exile is cool it is recrutable and kills winnies without target them very cool name also  )
+ 2 Stinkweed imp (look above)
+3 Nezumi Shortfang ( i like him more then the hypo cause he is a clock once he flips and a musst kill unflipped the only thing i dont like on him is he can be needled but for the rest i find him better then hypno)
+2 Shred Memory (searches for nezumi,disstress,last gasp , shoel if u want, confidant and the most important Consume Spirit.. there u have ur tutor )
+2 Quicksand( kills the nasty paladins and hands, also a bit similar to the flavour of wasteland)
ok so what we have now ..
4x Sickening Shoal
2x Shred Memory
2x Dark Confidant
4x Phyrexian Arena
3x Nezumi Shortfang
4x Distress
1x Nightmare Void
3x Kokusho, the Evening Star
4x Consume Spirit
1x Death of a Thousand Stings
2x Stinkweed imp
3x Eradicate
3x Last Gasp
1x Exile into Darkness
21x Swamp
2x Quicksand
sb would look like this
4x Shadow of Doubt (vs acccel,gifts, cranial,transmute and other search stuff like Congregation at Dawn any1 or Weird Harvest or Chord of Calling any1 stops ideal for 1 turn etc. etc. etc. )
2x Shred Memory (well takes the place of Planar Void)
1x Death denied (tried to put 1 in the main but didnt found place very cool brings back ur creatures and u can search for it with the shred memory )
3x Persecute (obv) (could also be a cranial extrahation)
2x Execute ( 1 of it could also be a eradicate or a last gasp)
2 x Slay ( 1 of it could also be a eradicate or a last gasp)
1x Nightmare Void
well i hope u liked what i had to say 
edit: i was also thinking about removing last gasp for Kiku's Shadow cause the shadow pretty much can kill more then last gasp does
it kills dragons it kills all the 4/4 running arround
ok its not a instant and it cant kill 1/3 or 2/3
but i rather cant kill sum of them instead of 4/4 and draagons or other big hitters if got what i mean
ok there is another + for last gasp -/- cannt be regenarated or prevented but i dont see much of these stuff in t2 anyway
but now a+ for shadow jitte cant stop shadow from killing a creature well sofar i think shadow is a bit better (for mono) |
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Kholdstare
Joined: 30 Apr 2005
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| Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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| im going to have to try that list apos...there are some card choices in there that look pretty saucy. i really like shred memory. it could be be useful. but i like hypnotic specter better than the nezumi for some reason. i guess well have to find out which one is better |
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Apos
Joined: 24 May 2005
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| Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 2:26 am Post subject: |
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..yep ..i made another changes with the land base since i play koku i added shizo and tomb of urami for sum situations
and cut 2 swamps
sb looks now like this a bunch of 1 ofs xD
3x shadow of doubt
2xcranial(i fear ideal and heartbeat combo)
2xpithing needle (heartbeat combo , jitte and other nasty stuff)1xpersecute
1x nightmare void
1xdeath denied (vs decks with much removmal)
1xstinkweed imp (kodama of the north tree other no targets and hordes)
1xslay (testing)
1x execute(testing)
i go and play it now |
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Kholdstare
Joined: 30 Apr 2005
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| Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 11:46 am Post subject: |
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| sideboard looks good too. i wont be testing this deck (wont be testing it MUCH) untl after regionals because ill be testing for regionals (no im playing this deck =)) but if someone does and can prove it...they are my new favorite person. keep the ideas coming kids! |
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