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Koen



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 1:53 pm    Post subject: Terror alerts came at convenient times for Bush... Reply with quote

Here you can see a broadcast of investigations of how the terror alert raises were convenient for the Bush Government:
(You can choose the version. It's all the same.)

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Quantumdemon



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah the terror alerts are means of controlling people and making them feel that they're dependant on the government. It's all b.s that the bush administration has used to keep us from discovering that they're just liars.
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Malhavoc



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone seen the film V for Vendetta? The political situation there is an obvious mirror of the USA government, particularly all the mischief done or the fear put into people just to have better control over them* (patriot act anyone?). If someone is interested in such content, and also likes a good action film, I really suggest it.

*A very emblematic moment is when the government, cornered by V's menaces, tells their TV channels: "broadcast news about famine, terrorism, violence, thefts, omicides, diseases. People must be convinced that they NEED us!"
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Laplie



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Malhavoc wrote:
The political situation there is an obvious mirror of the USA government, particularly all the mischief done or the fear put into people just to have better control over them* (patriot act anyone?).


Its not just the United States. If you look at other countries (namely the UK) they tend to have the same problem. Also, I hear there version of the Patriot Act is a lot worse.
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theTJtrooper



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
It's all b.s that the bush administration has used to keep us from discovering that they're just liars.


Quote:
The political situation there is an obvious mirror of the USA government, particularly all the mischief done or the fear put into people just to have better control over them* (patriot act anyone?).


How intelligent you all sound Sad You seem to be very subjective to hollywood media, like most pseudo-intellectuals are. I'm also confused why an administrator would pollute the forums with mindless spam.
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theTJtrooper



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I want you to explain to me why knowing Koen irl is relevant to the fact that he has a history of posting bs conspiracy theories, none of which are proveable.
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kilomitro



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

idk anything about conspiracy theroies involvingthe bush admin, btuiwill say that the terror alert system is bs. i think its useless and only instills fear into the hearts of those gullible enough to belive it.
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ChuckNorris



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually the Bush Administration is quite good at misdirection and using fear to their advantage. Thats the only reason he was reelected, the only reason the Republicans aren't guaranteed to lose the House and Senate this November. People are cows.

Problem: There's a massive federal budget deficit that will burden generations upon generations of Americans.

Solution: Don't give massive tax cuts to the richest 1% of Americans, reign in porkbarrel spending and special interest influence, raise taxes when and where appropriate.

Republican Response: 'ZOMG OMFG FUCKING QUEERS ARE TRYING TO GET MARRIED OMFG LOLOLOL."

Problem: The Iraq war is an utter failure.

Solution: Replace the secretary of defense and organize international help to keep the peace in Iraq.

Republican Response: 'OMG OMG OMG THEY'RE TRYING TO TAKE GOD OUT OF THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE OMG LOLZ.'

Problem: The country is dependant on foreign oil.

Solution: Invest in practical and plentiful renewable sorces of energy and the research necessary to produce them efficiently.

Republican Response: 'LOLOLOL LETS KILL THESE CARIBOU IN ALASKA TO DRILL FOR AN INDEFINATE AMOUNT OF OIL THAT ISN'T LIKELY TO LAST MORE THAN 20 YEARS ROFLCOPTERZ.'

etc.
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Arathomir



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bush has clearly taken advantage of his presidency. First is the fixed election in 2000 that Bush basically took advantage of how the Electoral College by winning only enough states to allow him to win without being elected by the majority of Americans. Then he forced the Supreme Court to prevent recounts in states where ballots had not been counted in Gore-loyal areas.
Then he forced upon the country religion, something that was the main reason we left England in the first place. This becomes visible when 9/11 occurs (another Bush screwup - the threat was discovered shortly before Clinton went into office but Bush didn't see it until a few days before and ignored it) and declares God Bless America, which had largely been prevented from being sung thanks to its lyrics, a national anthem. Then he forced the country to mourn the death of Pope John Paul II, including declaring that the flags be put at half mast.
Also, the economy since 9/11 has remained in shambles as nothing really has been done to fix it, except to pad the wallets of his wealthy contributors. This is relavent even more since Oil prices have risen (the Bush family, as well as Cheney, have many connections in the oil industry) and not a single decent effort has been made to cap it.
He botched Iraq by not leaving after victory had been declared six weeks into the war and by not leaving after Sadam was captured. He botched the effort after Katrina by doing very little to rebuild New Orleans, and nothing before the hurricane hit. He botched the immigration issue, by refusing to pretty much do anything to stem the increasing horde of Mexicans entering the country illegally and staying. Hell, his wiretapping program has been deemed unconstitutional.
So why is the idiot still in office? Because, sadly enough, there is no one else in his cabinet that we'd rather have in that position. Cheney would end up being a lot worse since he hasn't done anything but shoot someone in the face. Rice isn't any better either. In fact, the only way it would be worth impeaching Bush would be if his entire cabinet was forced to resign also. So we're stuck with one of the most incompetent leaders in the world until 2008.
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snoopster



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

arathomir, that was actually really well said. people i want to die now include george bush and the yankees.
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Malhavoc



Joined: 21 Sep 2004
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Location: Italy

PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laplie wrote:
Malhavoc wrote:
The political situation there is an obvious mirror of the USA government, particularly all the mischief done or the fear put into people just to have better control over them* (patriot act anyone?).


Its not just the United States. If you look at other countries (namely the UK) they tend to have the same problem. Also, I hear there version of the Patriot Act is a lot worse.


Well, V's country was the UK Wink ..anyway, films aside, it's true that fear is used by many coutries to keep people concerned. Even here in Italy, the former first minister Berlusconi kept shouting about the risk of communism if he wasn't going to be elected again (Communism? In 2006? In Italy? And if we really want to believe it, why was he a buddy with the ex-KGB Putin?).

All governments pretty behave the same when their concern is keeping their chairs. Unfortunately, this is not a relief. Mad
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Colossus



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arathomir wrote:
Bush has clearly taken advantage of his presidency. First is the fixed election in 2000 that Bush basically took advantage of how the Electoral College by winning only enough states to allow him to win without being elected by the majority of Americans.


This is one problem that alot of Americans seem to have: With the Electoral College system. Though I don't get why.

The Electoral College system was designed so each state gets a number of 'votes' based on population...what's with this? IT KEEPS PEOPLE FROM ONLY CAMPAIGNING IN CALIFORNIA, TEXAS, AND NEW YORK. If Presidents were elected solely on popularity, more than half of the country would be completly ignored. There would be no 'trying to gain Florida' or 'I think Ohio is going to be important this year'...it would just be 'We have to be more popular in California'

Electoral College is much more fair. Much more reasonable.
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AppleofEris



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was glad this bot posted some spam on this thread. It was nice to see something that Ayame-Chan said 4 years ago!!!
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