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ScottyRock5
Joined: 15 Jun 2008
Posts: 5
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 Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 12:47 pm Post subject: URW |
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Hey guys. I've been wanting to start a deck that involved sweet creatures. I narrowed it down between angels, dragons, elves, and some other crap. I've decided to go with angels, and more specifically the Captain America deck form deckcheck. It looks really cool, works well, and finished well by getting 8th at states in massachusetts. I've played out a couple of sample hands, and it seems like it need a few more turn 3 or 4 drops. I'm thinking more creatures like aven riftwatcher, but I'm not sure which. Anyway here's the list:
creature [13]
3 Akroma, Angel of Fury
3 Aven Riftwatcher
2 Body Double
4 Lightning Angel
1 Purity
instant [8]
4 Incinerate
4 Momentary Blink
sorcery [10]
3 Foresee
3 Sift
4 Wrath of God
artifact [6]
2 Coalition Relic
4 Coldsteel Heart
land [23]
4 Adarkar Wastes
4 Battlefield Forge
2 Calciform Pools
1 Island
2 Mountain
2 Nimbus Maze
3 Plains
4 Terramorphic Expanse
1 Urza's Factory
60 cards
Sideboard:
3 Dodecapod
3 Riptide Pilferer
3 Condemn
3 Oblivion Ring
3 Pithing Needle
I don't really know why the pilferer is in the sb, but whatever, I'm sure it has a purpose. I don't know why there aren't any Shivan reefs either, but I think that may be because there's the relics in there plus the coldsteel hearts. Anyway, is there any way to improve the deck at all to make it better against aggro and/or put more down turns 3-4? |
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kfcman
Joined: 16 Sep 2006
Posts: 665
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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Ok i say this to new forum posters on a weekly basis.
Make your decklists easy to read.
You don't need to do the instant [] and crap like that. People are smart. They know what the cards do. Things like that just junk up the post and make it difficult to read, deterring people from reading and commenting.
For future reference, your list should look like this:
3 Akroma, Angel of Fury
3 Aven Riftwatcher
2 Body Double
4 Lightning Angel
1 Purity
4 Incinerate
4 Momentary Blink
3 Foresee
3 Sift
4 Wrath of God
2 Coalition Relic
4 Coldsteel Heart
4 Adarkar Wastes
4 Battlefield Forge
2 Calciform Pools
1 Island
2 Mountain
2 Nimbus Maze
3 Plains
4 Terramorphic Expanse
1 Urza's Factory
Sideboard:
3 Dodecapod
3 Riptide Pilferer
3 Condemn
3 Oblivion Ring
3 Pithing Needle
Ta da. All you need do is set off the creatures, spells, land and the sideboard from each other by a space.
Only the SB requires an extra label.
EDIT: regarding the actual deck, i think that blink is pretty not so good in this deck. You don't even have mulldrifter to use with it. If you're going to have blink you should have other CIP creatures that can abuse blink. |
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ScottyRock5
Joined: 15 Jun 2008
Posts: 5
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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| kfcman wrote: | Ok i say this to new forum posters on a weekly basis.
Make your decklists easy to read.
You don't need to do the instant [] and crap like that. People are smart. They know what the cards do. Things like that just junk up the post and make it difficult to read, deterring people from reading and commenting.
For future reference, your list should look like this:
3 Akroma, Angel of Fury
3 Aven Riftwatcher
2 Body Double
4 Lightning Angel
1 Purity
4 Incinerate
4 Momentary Blink
3 Foresee
3 Sift
4 Wrath of God
2 Coalition Relic
4 Coldsteel Heart
4 Adarkar Wastes
4 Battlefield Forge
2 Calciform Pools
1 Island
2 Mountain
2 Nimbus Maze
3 Plains
4 Terramorphic Expanse
1 Urza's Factory
Sideboard:
3 Dodecapod
3 Riptide Pilferer
3 Condemn
3 Oblivion Ring
3 Pithing Needle
Ta da. All you need do is set off the creatures, spells, land and the sideboard from each other by a space.
Only the SB requires an extra label.
EDIT: regarding the actual deck, i think that blink is pretty not so good in this deck. You don't even have mulldrifter to use with it. If you're going to have blink you should have other CIP creatures that can abuse blink. |
Listen up mommy:
1st of all, I am by no means a new forum poster. To this one yes, to others, hell no.
2nd, it's called cut and paste. Do yourself a favor and check it out sometime.
3rd, why the hell does it matter how it's posted? Will the forum man come to my house and hustle me? I doubt it.
4th, you're probably right about the blink. The only thing I can think of that the blink does is keep shit from dying, but even that won't work all the time. For example I'm pretty sure that a blink can't evade a wrath effect or pyroclasm I don't think. In general, what other Angelfire cards should I include that would make the deck better?
Oh and chicken man, thanks for the initiation. |
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Lynolf
Joined: 25 Aug 2007
Posts: 224
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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Why don't you try Turn to Mist and some dragons too, like Numot or Bogardan Hellkite? At least with Turn to Mist you can escape Mass Removal. |
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skilla420
Joined: 29 Apr 2008
Posts: 258
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Lynolf wrote: | L
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Why don't you try Turn to Mist and some dragons too, like Numot or Bogardan Hellkite? At least with Turn to Mist you can escape Mass Removal. |
It's funny you say that because I talked to someone about that card a few days ago, and how it beats out a stacked wrath/pyroclasm/whatever. I think it would be a good substitute for sure. I think when the guy made the deck (since he referred to Captain America deck from deckcheck), shadowmoor wasn't out yet. So yes putting it in blink's place would be a good move.
Also, about suggestions for 3 or 4 mana drops for turns 2-4 that are like aven riftwatcher. I'm not sure what purpose scotty wants them to have other than to fend off some aggro and maybe take the opponent down a few life. Kitchen Finks? Flying may be the best. I'll keep looking. In the meantime, check out the decks from the angelfire section under standard decks at deckcheck, and make a good one using those principles. |
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kfcman
Joined: 16 Sep 2006
Posts: 665
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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| ScottyRock5 wrote: | | kfcman wrote: | Ok i say this to new forum posters on a weekly basis.
Make your decklists easy to read.
You don't need to do the instant [] and crap like that. People are smart. They know what the cards do. Things like that just junk up the post and make it difficult to read, deterring people from reading and commenting.
For future reference, your list should look like this:
3 Akroma, Angel of Fury
3 Aven Riftwatcher
2 Body Double
4 Lightning Angel
1 Purity
4 Incinerate
4 Momentary Blink
3 Foresee
3 Sift
4 Wrath of God
2 Coalition Relic
4 Coldsteel Heart
4 Adarkar Wastes
4 Battlefield Forge
2 Calciform Pools
1 Island
2 Mountain
2 Nimbus Maze
3 Plains
4 Terramorphic Expanse
1 Urza's Factory
Sideboard:
3 Dodecapod
3 Riptide Pilferer
3 Condemn
3 Oblivion Ring
3 Pithing Needle
Ta da. All you need do is set off the creatures, spells, land and the sideboard from each other by a space.
Only the SB requires an extra label.
EDIT: regarding the actual deck, i think that blink is pretty not so good in this deck. You don't even have mulldrifter to use with it. If you're going to have blink you should have other CIP creatures that can abuse blink. |
Listen up mommy:
1st of all, I am by no means a new forum poster. To this one yes, to others, hell no.
2nd, it's called cut and paste. Do yourself a favor and check it out sometime.
3rd, why the hell does it matter how it's posted? Will the forum man come to my house and hustle me? I doubt it.
4th, you're probably right about the blink. The only thing I can think of that the blink does is keep shit from dying, but even that won't work all the time. For example I'm pretty sure that a blink can't evade a wrath effect or pyroclasm I don't think. In general, what other Angelfire cards should I include that would make the deck better?
Oh and chicken man, thanks for the initiation. |
I would just like to point out that A) Being an **** on these forums ( i dont know how it worked on your other forums) will not treat you well. B) It defintely matters. Just notice that before you turned on the **** and started some controversy, no one, not a single person, had posted on your topic. Mostly because it was too difficult to read.
Now back to the deck. Well i just think with blink you should try to optimize its effectiveness so that whenever you have it you can play it. And also, even if you had no blink, i think you should have at least a couple mulldrifters. Having blinks is just gravy when you have drifters in your deck.
If you're worried about saving from wrath dont be. Very few decks run wraths in T2 now mostly because of bitterblossom, but its still very good. I think the foresees and sifts are subpar. The sifts would be fine if you had bigger guys and ressurection tho. Then you could be like the angelfire decks that would discard a Hellkite with a compulsive research then ressurect it and blink it 90 times, which i think is a good way to go. Maybe drop the foresees, incinerates and body double and go with drifters, hellkites and ressurections. Also the purity is just ok, i think. Maybe get in some good ol' white akroma.
Having the combination of protection from so many things in your deck is straight up ridiculous.
Overall, its a bit of a different direction from your deck currently but i think its a nice way to go. So maybe try this:
-3 foresee
-1 Purity
-2 Body Double
-4 Incinerate
+2 Ressurection
+4 Mulldrifter
+2 Bogardan Hellkite
+2 Akroma, Angel of Wrath
Also consider, yeah, kind of away from where your deck is going, but try a more counter based approach. Cryptic Command is insane.
Not to have a thousand deck changes in one post but. Riftwatchers could be boarded and not so many R akromas needed, plus the blinks dont need to be a 4of. Plus i think you could use an extra land. You have the relics and hearts but with the 4 T expanses you might want more than 23.
-1 Blink
-1 Akroma
-3 Aven Riftwatcher
+4 Cryptic Command
+1 Mystic Gate
That, or sneak in some big Xspell. Titan's Revenge doesnt seem that bad as it can keep on going. |
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ILikeBananas
Joined: 01 Aug 2006
Posts: 139
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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| ScottyRock5 wrote: | | kfcman wrote: | Ok i say this to new forum posters on a weekly basis.
Make your decklists easy to read.
You don't need to do the instant [] and crap like that. People are smart. They know what the cards do. Things like that just junk up the post and make it difficult to read, deterring people from reading and commenting.
For future reference, your list should look like this:
3 Akroma, Angel of Fury
3 Aven Riftwatcher
2 Body Double
4 Lightning Angel
1 Purity
4 Incinerate
4 Momentary Blink
3 Foresee
3 Sift
4 Wrath of God
2 Coalition Relic
4 Coldsteel Heart
4 Adarkar Wastes
4 Battlefield Forge
2 Calciform Pools
1 Island
2 Mountain
2 Nimbus Maze
3 Plains
4 Terramorphic Expanse
1 Urza's Factory
Sideboard:
3 Dodecapod
3 Riptide Pilferer
3 Condemn
3 Oblivion Ring
3 Pithing Needle
Ta da. All you need do is set off the creatures, spells, land and the sideboard from each other by a space.
Only the SB requires an extra label.
EDIT: regarding the actual deck, i think that blink is pretty not so good in this deck. You don't even have mulldrifter to use with it. If you're going to have blink you should have other CIP creatures that can abuse blink. |
Listen up mommy:
1st of all, I am by no means a new forum poster. To this one yes, to others, hell no.
2nd, it's called cut and paste. Do yourself a favor and check it out sometime.
3rd, why the hell does it matter how it's posted? Will the forum man come to my house and hustle me? I doubt it.
4th, you're probably right about the blink. The only thing I can think of that the blink does is keep shit from dying, but even that won't work all the time. For example I'm pretty sure that a blink can't evade a wrath effect or pyroclasm I don't think. In general, what other Angelfire cards should I include that would make the deck better?
Oh and chicken man, thanks for the initiation. |
Your post count is 3. You posted your deck in a format that is relatively hard to read. You said "I'm pretty sure that a blink can't evade a wrath effect or pyroclasm I don't think". Everything suggests that you are new to more than just the forum.
You are posting to ask other people for advice. The LEAST you can do is make it easy for us to read. That kind of attitude won't get you anywhere on this forum, and certainly not in life.
P.S. Actually you'll fit right in at ML. |
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ScottyRock5
Joined: 15 Jun 2008
Posts: 5
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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If you guys think about it, you're all complex enough to comprehend and play magic, so you should be able to read the list without hurting yourselves. I asked forgiveness from Jesus for posting the decklist the wrong way, so hopefully I wont burn in hell.
And I strongly doubt that my attitude in this forum reflects that in my real life, bananacrazygonuts. Besides it's magic dude, if no one posts, life goes on. On the bright side, I haven't turned in to gypsy yet, so things are looking up.
Anyway, I completely agree on the drifter, and putting in all that good stuff. Maybe chuck in a careful consideration. But it's coming along. By the way, I hear you on the resurrection. I still gotta even out that curve though. |
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Delicious
Joined: 08 Jun 2007
Posts: 425
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| Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:02 am Post subject: |
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| ScottyRock5 wrote: | | kfcman wrote: | Ok i say this to new forum posters on a weekly basis.
Make your decklists easy to read.
You don't need to do the instant [] and crap like that. People are smart. They know what the cards do. Things like that just junk up the post and make it difficult to read, deterring people from reading and commenting.
For future reference, your list should look like this:
3 Akroma, Angel of Fury
3 Aven Riftwatcher
2 Body Double
4 Lightning Angel
1 Purity
4 Incinerate
4 Momentary Blink
3 Foresee
3 Sift
4 Wrath of God
2 Coalition Relic
4 Coldsteel Heart
4 Adarkar Wastes
4 Battlefield Forge
2 Calciform Pools
1 Island
2 Mountain
2 Nimbus Maze
3 Plains
4 Terramorphic Expanse
1 Urza's Factory
Sideboard:
3 Dodecapod
3 Riptide Pilferer
3 Condemn
3 Oblivion Ring
3 Pithing Needle
Ta da. All you need do is set off the creatures, spells, land and the sideboard from each other by a space.
Only the SB requires an extra label.
EDIT: regarding the actual deck, i think that blink is pretty not so good in this deck. You don't even have mulldrifter to use with it. If you're going to have blink you should have other CIP creatures that can abuse blink. |
Listen up mommy:
1st of all, I am by no means a new forum poster. To this one yes, to others, hell no.
2nd, it's called cut and paste. Do yourself a favor and check it out sometime.
3rd, why the hell does it matter how it's posted? Will the forum man come to my house and hustle me? I doubt it.
4th, you're probably right about the blink. The only thing I can think of that the blink does is keep shit from dying, but even that won't work all the time. For example I'm pretty sure that a blink can't evade a wrath effect or pyroclasm I don't think. In general, what other Angelfire cards should I include that would make the deck better?
Oh and chicken man, thanks for the initiation. |
dude, he called you mommy |
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Kaos
Joined: 01 Oct 2004
Posts: 21
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| Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know why people put up with that crap. Or they will rant about the stupid shit that you say and then say something like....
Back to the deck, I think you should just run UWr Reveilark my reasoning is: it's actually a competitive deck.
Yada yada yada.
I just hate when people do that. |
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Vedrfolner
Joined: 04 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:07 am Post subject: |
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| The morale is: don't say stupid shit. |
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skilla420
Joined: 29 Apr 2008
Posts: 258
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| Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 4:34 am Post subject: |
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| How does one splash red in a UW rev deck? |
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Vedrfolner
Joined: 04 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:07 am Post subject: |
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| skilla420 wrote: | | How does one splash red in a UW rev deck? |
Adding red mana? Vivid-pool plus a few Battlefield Forges would do the trick, I think. |
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skilla420
Joined: 29 Apr 2008
Posts: 258
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| Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:35 am Post subject: |
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No I get the manabase, I meant what red cards would you include that would still make it a formidable deck?
And the reason why momentary blink/turn to mist is in there (although you guys probably already know) is to blink a morphed akroma and return it to play as the real deal. Potentially, depending on mana acceleration, you could have an Akroma by turns 3 or 4, probably 4. |
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Vedrfolner
Joined: 04 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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| the red card is Greater Gargadon. |
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