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onecleanceli



Joined: 27 Mar 2005
Posts: 398

PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i dont think maniac fits the theme.. maybe nantuko husk? another sac outlet for pact and essentially could sac everything to clear their board and swing for huge
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zapppp



Joined: 09 Feb 2008
Posts: 8

PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nether traitor is a star in this deck so is nantuko hust
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gypsy



Joined: 15 Jun 2007
Posts: 1671

PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol ravenous rats better than thoughtseize.
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ZW



Joined: 25 Apr 2008
Posts: 227

PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rats actually could be better, makes curve stronger, can get sacked. I'm not saying it is, but in this deck, it very well could be.
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Deuce



Joined: 06 Oct 2007
Posts: 112

PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the furystroke tokens version more. You could squeeze a pact or two in that list too.
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trueeevil



Joined: 08 Dec 2007
Posts: 251

PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, you'd rather play 1b target player discards a card, remove a counter from target gargadon if you have one suspended instead of B, choose which card is discarded.

"I don't want to start at 18 life". All i can say is that this must be a joke, or you have never used the card.
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Acid_Christ



Joined: 28 Aug 2004
Posts: 799

PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

trueeevil wrote:
...instead of B, choose which card is discarded, lose 2 life.


Overall, yes thoughtseize is the better card. But in this deck running a creature that discards and sacs to Gargadon and triggers Gravepact is the better choice. Maybe Thoughtseize in the Sb.
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Orlandu



Joined: 25 Sep 2004
Posts: 196

PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There IS such a thing as synergy over power.
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cheesypirate



Joined: 09 Aug 2006
Posts: 95

PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Orlandu wrote:
There IS such a thing as synergy over power.


and guess what? thoughtseize fits this deck perfectly. it ups the amount of stuff that the deck can pull off turn 1, it gets rid of any hate the opposing deck can have, or it just slows the opposing deck down so that winning is easier. ravenous rats is just bad, even in this deck. sure, it might trigger grave pact by chump blocking vs. an aggro deck or something, but seriously. your saying ravenous rats is only decent when you have situational cards out, and there is no card draw/tutor in the deck. so your saying that ravenous rats is better in this deck than thoughtseize because it can cump block, and it can benefit 2 (eight) cards in the deck that you expect to have in play by at least turn 4 every game. thoughtseize is not a situational card, and fits and every black deck's mana curve.

if money is your problem, then just say so. cards are hard to obtain these days.
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ZW



Joined: 25 Apr 2008
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you need Mogg War Marshal, it fits the deck perfectly.
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DESTRUCTOR



Joined: 28 Jun 2005
Posts: 119

PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you should just play the RB tokens deck that is around and put 2-3 grave pact on sb.

24 lands:
3 Auntie's Hovel
2 Graven Cairns
2 Kher Keep
5 Mountain
4 Sulfurous Springs
8 Swamp

25 creatures:
1 Furystoke Giant
4 Greater Gargadon
3 Magus of the Moon
4 Mogg Fanatic
4 Mogg War Marshal
2 Murderous Redcap
4 Nantuko Husk
3 Shadow Guildmage

11 other spells:
4 Bitterblossom
3 Profane Command
2 Rite of Consumption
2 Slaughter Pact

sb:
3 Extirpate
4 Thoughtseize
3 Threaten
3 grave pact
2 terror

Obv is just a build you can change it if you want Razz, also you can switch the slaughter pact and the grave pacts if you expect much aggro decks and want to use the grave pact on main deck
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