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noobmellow
Joined: 26 Mar 2008
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 Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 9:13 pm Post subject: tokenweave in standard? |
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Kithkin WW
1st - mrkS
Main Deck Sideboard
4 Mutavault
11 Plains
4 Rustic Clachan
4 Windbrisk Heights
3 Thistledown Liege
3 Wilt-Leaf Liege
3 Goldmeadow Harrier
4 Goldmeadow Stalwart
3 Burrenton Forge-Tender
4 Cloudgoat Ranger
4 Knight of Meadowgrain
4 Wizened Cenn
3 Mirrorweave
2 Surge of Thoughtweft
4 Spectral Procession
3 Kitchen Finks
2 Pollen Lullaby
2 Oblivion Ring
1 Goldmeadow Harrier
3 Wispmare
3 Brigid, Hero of Kinsbaile
1 Burrenton Forge-Tender
Would this be good in T2? I just played one game with it against merfolk. It was crazy. I used heights on turn 4 after my opponent had a crazy turn with reejery and put out 5 creatures including Lord of Atlantis. Then, I swung with vault and 2 weenies activated heights for mirrrorweave targeting Lord of Atlantis for a 27 damage island walking victory. Then next game I had a double flash in thistledown leige getting a 3 for 1 and gaining 6 life with 2 knight of the meadowgrain leaving my opponent to shout out the c word at me. concede. this deck is pretty sweet.
maybe add ornithopter for mirrorweave plus heights etc. what do you guys think? |
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Conkisstador
Joined: 08 Sep 2004
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| Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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| it works. calciderm is a good beater in t2. |
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Vedrfolner
Joined: 04 Apr 2006
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If you look at the dominating deck in block, it is Kithkin WW. I think that a few additions from Standard and the deck is probably good enough for FNM or Regionals.
Why Forge-Tender in main? I think it is a sideboard card against red.
Horizon Canopy is good in the deck, the extra draw can be a game winner.
I don't think that 6 lieges in a deck is good, btw. In a deck with no multicoloured creatures apart from themselves, the lieges aren't that efficient. For your purposes, Celestial Crusader is better than Liege! I think you should decide whether you like Thistledown's flash or Wilt-Leaf's body and go with 3 copies of one of them.
I think that white weenie's best asset is the access to efficient removal. Sunlance, Oblivion Ring, Temporal Isolation, Crib Swap, Icatian Javelineers are all playable and makes the deck quite strong against other aggro.
Pollen Lullaby and Brigid I can't see how fits the deck. |
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Ggerg
Joined: 04 Sep 2005
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| Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:59 am Post subject: |
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pollen lullaby is, quite frankly, an amazing sideboard card vs. other aggro decks. when they dont see it coming it can just win you the game, and when they do see it coming, it screws up the math and can give you a huge advantage.
people really do need to stop doing the whole "i have an active harrier, but i wont use it" play, cuz it totally telegraphs their lullaby. |
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gypsy
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| Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 7:47 am Post subject: |
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| forge tender is md in block because of firespout being playable in every deck. |
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noobmellow
Joined: 26 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Vedrfolner wrote: | If you look at the dominating deck in block, it is Kithkin WW. I think that a few additions from Standard and the deck is probably good enough for FNM or Regionals.
Why Forge-Tender in main? I think it is a sideboard card against red.
Horizon Canopy is good in the deck, the extra draw can be a game winner.
I don't think that 6 lieges in a deck is good, btw. In a deck with no multicoloured creatures apart from themselves, the lieges aren't that efficient. For your purposes, Celestial Crusader is better than Liege! I think you should decide whether you like Thistledown's flash or Wilt-Leaf's body and go with 3 copies of one of them.
I think that white weenie's best asset is the access to efficient removal. Sunlance, Oblivion Ring, Temporal Isolation, Crib Swap, Icatian Javelineers are all playable and makes the deck quite strong against other aggro.
Pollen Lullaby and Brigid I can't see how fits the deck. |
celestial crusader is bad with mirrorweave compared to leiges |
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whateverdude
Joined: 06 Sep 2004
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| Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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| noobmellow wrote: | | Vedrfolner wrote: | If you look at the dominating deck in block, it is Kithkin WW. I think that a few additions from Standard and the deck is probably good enough for FNM or Regionals.
Why Forge-Tender in main? I think it is a sideboard card against red.
Horizon Canopy is good in the deck, the extra draw can be a game winner.
I don't think that 6 lieges in a deck is good, btw. In a deck with no multicoloured creatures apart from themselves, the lieges aren't that efficient. For your purposes, Celestial Crusader is better than Liege! I think you should decide whether you like Thistledown's flash or Wilt-Leaf's body and go with 3 copies of one of them.
I think that white weenie's best asset is the access to efficient removal. Sunlance, Oblivion Ring, Temporal Isolation, Crib Swap, Icatian Javelineers are all playable and makes the deck quite strong against other aggro.
Pollen Lullaby and Brigid I can't see how fits the deck. |
celestial crusader is bad with mirrorweave compared to leiges |
u nuts ? its actually BETTER with mirrorweave, because you need less creatures to go for the kill. |
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Vedrfolner
Joined: 04 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 1:26 am Post subject: |
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| Well, maybe the lieges are better with Mirrorweave, but Celestial Crusader really screws up Faeries and Merfolk. It is that which makes it better, not comboing with Mirrorweave. |
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BigShow
Joined: 07 Apr 2005
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Location: Igloo town
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| Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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| noobmellow wrote: | | celestial crusader is bad with mirrorweave compared to leiges |
its the 4 mana Lord of Atlantis... with flying |
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TekNique
Joined: 19 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Not quite. The crusader helps the opponent in more cases than lord of atlantis plus it costs 2 less mana which means it can be played quicker and the Lord helps his fish get islandwalk which can mean the win against some decks. Only down side to lord of atlantis is an enemy mutavault. |
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thelemys
Joined: 24 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 1:05 am Post subject: |
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| TekNique wrote: | | Not quite. The crusader helps the opponent in more cases than lord of atlantis plus it costs 2 less mana which means it can be played quicker and the Lord helps his fish get islandwalk which can mean the win against some decks. Only down side to lord of atlantis is an enemy mutavault. |
And some Chameleon, you re a little fast to forget him.... |
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TekNique
Joined: 19 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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Yes any changeling poses problems against decks that run Lord of Atlantis.
Mainly Taurean Mauler, Chamelon Collosus, Mutavault, and Mirror Entity (now seen less due to Gargadon sac outlet). |
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