Time Vault....

CursedOne · Joined: 02 Jun 2005 Posts: 26

I just saw a thread running on scg about the top tier decks in legacy and a lots of people think that time vault should get the axe in the next restricted/banned announcement.

Link to this thread: http://www.starcitygames.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=283040

Personnally, i don't think Time Vault should get banned for 2 reason:

1st: Goblins is the best deck in the format right now, so banning Time Vault will simply shut down a contender at the demise of goblin

2nd: Those Wizard guys would not be as stupid as I think to simply kill a newly emerged deck like Flame Vault. My opinion, is that this deck is not as good as goblin and should not be killed because of simple card.

Please feel free to add comments while voting in the pool.

s7 · Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 153

I don't think Time Vault will get banned. I think Wizards will go more along the lines of banning of makes the deck really good. That is Ancient Tomb and City of Traitors.

Dr_Moo · Joined: 26 Nov 2004 Posts: 950

I really doubt it, also. Vault/Fusillade is only 1 mana cheaper than Illusions/Donate, which has never really been though of as overpowered in any format.

CursedOne · Joined: 02 Jun 2005 Posts: 26

Well, the big difference between Illusion/Donate and flame vault is that one is using an artifact as a combo piece, which is, in my opinion, more fetchable then enchantement, and as i think so, more fragile Sad

As for me, ill post later this night about the comments,i gotta go watch WWE wrestling with my friends Smile

Vodka_drink · Joined: 13 Mar 2005 Posts: 1130 Location: Brampton O

there is no way time vault is broken enough to ban...it only used highly in one deck and that deck itself isn't that amazing...time vault doesn't effect the metagame at all..

Vodka

ant900 · Joined: 11 Oct 2004 Posts: 2473 Location: somewhere

time vault is a one shot thing, if you mess up your dead with in the next 100000 turns you let your opponet have

Parshath · Joined: 31 Oct 2005 Posts: 9

Saucetenuto · Joined: 11 Sep 2005 Posts: 1

We'll know after the GP, of course, but I think the Vault is too strong. The difference between it and Donate/Illusions is that Illusions can be disenchanted (remember "lifegain on the stack"?); if you try to Disenchant the Vault, your opponent can easily respond by killing you (assuming that they're good players, and cast Fusillade before dropping the Vault).

I don't think it's brokenly format defining, but compare it to the (banned) Earthcraft/Squirrel Nest engine, and you'll see how much stronger it is.

CursedOne · Joined: 02 Jun 2005 Posts: 26

Laplie · League Staff Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 536

s7 · Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 153

Awww.... why did you point that out? All the scrubs would of believed him =-(

Dragon_Lady · Joined: 02 May 2005 Posts: 225

You don't necessarily need the Fusillade to win, either...I played vs a guy in a Legacy tournament that did a Stasis- like combo involving a Smokestack with one counter, a Tangle Wire set to 4, and a Time Vault....when I had 3 lands. Sad

NOT fun at all.

IanRobbins · Joined: 02 Dec 2004 Posts: 233

Are you kidding me? That deck is not even good, time vault is Nothing close to broken in 1.5----OmGz()R Lotus PEtal is teh RIGGEZOR!! ban it !! lol bassicaly same thing.

MrCowFart · Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 380

time vault + stasis + tangle wire = gg

Relentless · Joined: 10 Apr 2005 Posts: 6

The decks not too strong. If it were just about power level, I'd consider ten other cards for banning before Time Vault, but I don't really think anything is too powerfulin the format right now.

The problem is competitive decks that cost 600$ to build tend to keep people out of the format. For that reason I think they should ban it, not power levels.