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Summoning sickness?



 
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ransom3



Joined: 01 Oct 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:05 pm    Post subject: Summoning sickness? Reply with quote

Turn 1: Swamp
Turn 2: Mutavault

Can I activate Mutavault and attack on the first turn it comes into play?
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yeawaffels



Joined: 09 Aug 2007
Posts: 8

PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no
1.mutavault
2.than swamp
than he can attack
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Valandor



Joined: 07 Jan 2008
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Creatures that aren't under control by the start of your upkeep can't attack or tap for abilities unless they have haste. It doesn't matter that they weren't creatures at the start of the upkeep.
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thedarkness



Joined: 13 Jul 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beginning of your TURN*
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Conkisstador



Joined: 08 Sep 2004
Posts: 247

PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sickness:
All permanents are sick unless you have controlled them continuously since the start of your newest turn. Only creatures are affected by it. (mutavault as a land is not. once it becomes a creature its sick in all ways, including tapping for mana)

if u play mutavault on turn 4 and activate on their turn to block... it cannot be tapped for mana post-blocks.

also note that if u get a creature back froma sower, it's sick.
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Valandor



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not begining of your turn since creatures that phase in that have no haste can still attack as normal
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Hardtrack



Joined: 10 Aug 2005
Posts: 265

PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is the beginning of the turn. Phasing therefor gives the permanent haste.

502.15m A permanent that phases in can attack and tap to play abilities as though it had haste. This applies even if that permanent phased out and phased back in the turn it came into play. The permanent remains able to attack and tap to play abilities until it changes controllers or leaves play.
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Valandor



Joined: 07 Jan 2008
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah ok then im just stupid and should be shot. (Or I should actualy take the time to learn the phasing rules)
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artificer



Joined: 07 May 2006
Posts: 57

PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about if I remove a creature with an Oblivion Ring? Will the creature be capable of attack in the same turn the oblivion ring is destroyed?
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LoneWulf



Joined: 02 Sep 2004
Posts: 142

PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The creature is treated as a new creature and will be sick unless it has haste.
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guysmiley



Joined: 01 Mar 2005
Posts: 12

PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Valandor wrote:
It's not begining of your turn since creatures that phase in that have no haste can still attack as normal


But it's not phasing as per the ability, it is a card becoming a creature.
Until it has been in your control since the beginning of your turn it cannot attack or use abilities that cause it to tap, this includes mana abilities.
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