Sealed Pool : Howd you build this?

rhaze · Joined: 02 Nov 2005 Posts: 62

Hey fellas.

neways this is the sealed pool that ive got during morningtide release. ive got mixed reactions on this one, so ive decided that i should try and ask more ppl around and get more feedback on this one. if you can, please post a build that you think is the best for this pool.

cheers.

MOR sealed pool:

Land
Vivid Grove

Multi-Colored
Wort, Boggart Auntie

Artifact
Springleaf Drum
Runed Stalactice

White
Burrenton Forge-Tender
Cenn's Heir
Favour of the Mighty
Favour of the Mighty (foily ...... yes two of em...... sigh)
Kinsbaile Balloonist
Kithkin Healer
Neck Snap
Wizened Cenn
2 Ballyrush Banneret
2 Burrenton Shield-Bearers
Coordinated Barrage
Feudkiller's Verdict
Graceful Reprieve
Swell of Courage

Blue
Amoeboid Changeling
Merrow Reejery
Pestermite
Protective Bubble
Ringskipper
Silvergill Douser
Turtleshell Changeling
Whirpool Whelm
Zephyr Net
Fencer Clique
Inspired Sprite
2 Negate
Research the deep
2 Stream of Unconsciousness

Black
Black Poplar Shaman
Facevaulter
Faerie Tauntings
2 Footbottom Feast
Mournwhelk
Scarred Vinebreeder
Shriekmaw
Thieving Sprite
Festercreep
Noggin Whack
2 Prickly Boggart
Violet Pall
Weed-Pruned Poplar

Red
Axegrinder Giant
Blades of Velis Vel
Boggart Sprite Chaser
Flamekin Brawler
Giant Harbinger
Ingot Chewer
Inner-Flame Acolyte
Inner-Flame Igniter
Lowland Oaf
Lunk Errant
Rival's Duel
2 Stingmoggie

Green
Gilt-Leaf Seer
Imperious Perfect
Leaf-Gilder
Lignify
Masked Admirers
Warren-Scourge Elf
2 Bosk Banneret
2 Elvish Warrior
Greatbow Doyen

i'll post my build later when we've got enough feedback (i hope). thanks again guys!

Eldar · Joined: 27 Nov 2006 Posts: 332 Location: Rochester

I would probably go with something like this by casting costs:

0:
Vivid Grove

1:
Springleaf Drum
Runed Stalactite

2:
Leaf Gilder
Lignify
Elvish Warrior x2
Blades of the Velis Veil
Bosk Banneret x2

3:
Imperious Perfect
Inner-Flame Acolyte
Inner-Flame Igniter
Gilt-Leaf Seer

4:
Masked Admirers
Wort, Boggart Auntie
Lowland Oaf
Rival's Duel

5:
Greatbow Doyen
Shriekmaw
Violet Pall
Giant Harbinger

6:
Axegrinder Giant

7:
Mournwhelk

This doesn't seem very good anyway but you could have tried going for the merfolk/faerie package instead of the red, with the amoeboid, reejery, pestermite, douser, turtleshell, whelm, fencer, inspired. Either way the deck would be a solid 3-3 in 6 rounds maybe 4-2 but I don't think any better than that.

Sandler · Joined: 01 Sep 2004 Posts: 176

McRishel42 · Joined: 27 Jan 2008 Posts: 22

Yeah I agree, I'd probably go UW with a splash of black for the Shriekmaw and other stuff. The worst part about your pool is that you do have really good stuff, but really good stuff in every color, and not a lot of stuff in any one color. Sucks lol.

jared · Joined: 14 Jul 2006 Posts: 45

White doesn't have enough strong creatures to get the job done. I'd play URb. It gives you a decent enough curve w/ good targets in UR for giant harbinger to be effective besides his 3/4 body. Wort can also return tricks like Blades.

Femt · Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 16

Ok, first of all I would be really worried if I were you coz your pool kinda suck!! Shocked

First, the must choose color there is W. You are really unlucky with the rest, despite some fo your green cards are somwhat nice, such as Imperious Perfect, you dont have many threats there.
Second, I wouldnt splash anything. Splashing G there wouldnt be of much help,and you only have one removal at R and just a double violet at B. But if you really want to splash, I would try B.

In my opinion, your deck should be WU. Wink

jared · Joined: 14 Jul 2006 Posts: 45

Please tell me how white is better than red. Red has more synergy with blades alone than white has with blue. You can search for blades with a strong creature or search for more giants with said creature. The boggart is strong with the stalactite alone not to mention the faeries and blades. A splash in black gives you two strongest removal spells for sealed (black is hardly ever ever a feature color making pall even better). The duel is also a good removal spell with your bigger creatures. Choosing white as a main color does nothing except give you small irrelevant guys. I'd be surprised if you played it. R=big guys + tricks and searchers, U=your guy base with strong changlings plus good tricks in whelm, pestermite, and stream, B=2 strong removal spells. And contrary to what others are saying it could definitely be a 5-1 deck in most sealeds, just depends on skill level Smile

Femt · Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 16

Now that I saw the Shierkmaw there I certainly would try something with B due to removal, but still dont be confident. this pool is really weak.
I think your R really sucks. You have 1 removal and it could be splashed, but your mana curve wouldnt be very realiable. I dont know, I just think you could go with 100% sure that your making the right decision with WU. Like I said, splashing B would be an ok decision, but it wouldnt be a mortal weapon, since you dont know others players pools. ^^

Inferno3 · Joined: 25 May 2006 Posts: 34

Femt · Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 16

Its just what I said here. But its still a weak pool in my opinion ;/

Eldar · Joined: 27 Nov 2006 Posts: 332 Location: Rochester

Honestly I don't know what you people see in white. There is verdict as a bomb but other than that the pool is incredibly weak in white. The red offers you fat, tricks, removal, and recursion. The black splash offers you disruption and removal, and the green provides early game as well as an I win the game if not answered card in perfect. The elves here are pretty good in and of themselves, however aside from perfect nothing really stands out as great; however an opening of a couple elves followed by perfect is hard to beat by any standards. The blue here is also fine with a small merfolk core backed up with a little evasion with the faeries, cantrips, and combat tricks like crazy. Honestly the white here simply sucks. The absolute best thing you can do is banneret into a 3/3 for 5. Good luck with that. Each other color offers you a better package here.

Femt · Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 16

Man realize!! Bear in mind he is going to play against others player. If thats the case, he shouldnt consider on using only 2-3 drops elves with no useful abilities just because he owns a single imperious perfect. Dont get me wrong,the card is great, but its not working while his only good elves are 2 drops elves 2/3. And if the red your saying is so good, why most of the ppl here didnt mentioned it??
His W is probally the most complete color and it surely must be used. U is ok but the others colors lack so many things and are somewhat slow so the options are really limited. Like you said, his B could be splashed, but I really dont like to splash in LLM that much ;/
Just a personal preference here, but it could be done. Like I said b4, I would suggest WU but a WUB is also playable. Im gonna say again, the pool sucks,mainly because of the poor mana curve in G and R and the lack of options ;/

Eldar · Joined: 27 Nov 2006 Posts: 332 Location: Rochester

Realize he's playing against other players. That is exactly my freaking point. White has absolutely crap for creatures, crap for tricks, crap for everything. Green at least gives him something. Don't simply just flame me without any evidence to back it up. As for what everyone else has said. They clearly haven't played much if any of this format and don't know what they are talking about. Whereas I have and I know what you have to do to win in this type of environment. Also I said that you want your main color to be green, your primary splash to be either blue/red and your secondary splash to be black. I didn't say the red was the best it just has a lot more to offer in every aspect than the white which has creatures that are worse than hill giants, the weakest white removal spells in the format arguably, a couple of the worst kithkin aside from the cenn, almost no synergy with the bannerets, and only one bomb that requires you to be either mainly or primarily splashing white to be effective. His curve is hard to say either way. White would possibly help that a small amount however the weakness in the creatures would make that strictly worse for him as the game progresses. With G/R/b for example he at least has a few 3, 4, and 5 drops to consistently work with each game and assuming G/U/b he should be able to smooth out the curve a bit and outdraw opponents later in the game.

Femt · Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 16

You cant really say you played more sealed than me,as Im playing a lot just like you. I tried to see what you mean here, but fact is that you are perhaps looking to another sealed pool. R above here just sucks, and I can say that alongside with the others you mentioned above that havent played it yet, we all agreeded that WUB would be an ok choice. Look again, his R lacks good critters and removal, and thats what R is all about. He simple cant have those from this pool, so the logical choice here would be W, because of the consistent mana curve, U because of flying and a few tricks, and B to splash the removals to give the deck some power. Like I said, I would not splash B because its not my style to splash in Lowryn and Morning sealed and draft because it ruins the mana curve, but it would be acceptable. Im sure you are playing this for a while, but dont misjudge the others ability. Its possible for others players to play this just once and own you and me togheter.

rhaze · Joined: 02 Nov 2005 Posts: 62

Eldar : thanks again for the build. it didnt even cross my mind to build somethin like that but thats only because i just didnt like the red stuff in my pool. seems like its really missing the 'extra' bit to get there so i just decided to abandon red altogether.

and as for the rest who replied, thank again for your suggestions. it seems that most suggested UWb. amazingly enough, ive got alot of different build suggestions from other players whom i draft with regularly. some notable mentiones are GUb and GWb.

McRishel42 and Femt : yeah i know my pool suck big time. when i had it i was like... damn that was a waste of money. lols.. didnt turn out too bad tho as i finished 13th with that pile of junk that i built (4-2-1 : the one draw was a fluke, i was completely gonna win that one but we timed out at 1-1).

any thoughts on GUb or GWb?