Biggest worry this ext season is dredge

beanbungo · Joined: 09 Oct 2005 Posts: 40

So the last PTQ in my area which is being held in Miami is coming up in a week, and I'm stuck between two decks, Tog w/ loam n darkblast main, or Balancing Tings w/ gargadon/brushhopper/draco/explosion, only problem is the Orlando PTQ Dredge was everywhere, and it'll obviously be one of the popular decks seeing it takes almost no skill to play, breakthrough ftw 2nd turn like everyother game...

So I need advice on what cards to play against it, or if i should change decks based around the fact that dredge will be everywhere, and losing game 1 every other matchup is kind of annoying...

Cards that are best against dregde =

da_penguin · Guest

dredge is harder to play than you give it credit for, if your really worried about it just play extirpates, or md hate.

center425 · Joined: 06 May 2006 Posts: 330

Black_Dog · Joined: 29 Sep 2006 Posts: 161

Leyline, Tormod's, Mogg Fanatic (which isn't a shut down but can help if you're smart about when to sac).

And Dredge isn't a retard pilot. Sure anyone can make it work but to pull out a win once someones dropped a Leyline or a Crypt does require skill, as well as knowing when to Mulligan and what to do when you have no Imp or Careful Study or Breakthrough in your draw.

Ironicus · Joined: 08 Jan 2006 Posts: 132

About 80% of poeple inn this league made mistake vs me when I'm playing dredge... I bet guesse that no one know how the deck work really. Exept me and shiva, I didn't see alot of dredge deck of worked and this is because poeple don't know how to play it.

mickg42 · Joined: 03 Aug 2005 Posts: 19

Not really hard to play.
I just need 3 games, made mistake during them, and after that kill 90/95% of the time turn 2 or 3.

I'm agree that it needs like 10 games to know what to do vs leyline or tormod's ( i think tormod's is more annoying than leyline). But nothing as hard as people describe here.

just goldfish 5 games, then simulate at least 10 games with side vs tormod's and leyline at same time in opponent deck and u should know what to do after that.

If your meta is full of dredge play goblins.

tomi · Joined: 01 Jun 2007 Posts: 8

mickg42 · Joined: 03 Aug 2005 Posts: 19

u might think i play the deck 5 times only. that's false i've never said that.

And for teeg this is not a problem for the deck.

real good players don't have to ply it at ptq they're already qualified.

Apocalypser · Joined: 05 Jun 2005 Posts: 62

center425 · Joined: 06 May 2006 Posts: 330

tomi · Joined: 01 Jun 2007 Posts: 8

yes when you win on turn 3 its easy to play dredge but the games that you you play where you have to play more then 5 rounds are hard to play and are not easy to play... so a player who knows the deck not good will not win as many matches with dredge as a player who knows the deck exspecialy in matches which need more time ... sorry for my bad english ^^

beanbungo · Joined: 09 Oct 2005 Posts: 40

Figured I would get the response by a million ppl that dredge isnt an easy deck to play, ok you're right on that, but it's a much easier deck to play game 1 then any other deck out there besides bad ones and goblins.

As for the deck i'm choosing, im leaning towards tog although i love balancing tings, but balancing tings has a problem doing turn 1 extirpate on a bridge if i dont have any lands in my opening draw that come into play untapped, plus tog has the ability to counter the dread return and play + pop deed the following turn to kill the tokens without haste, although a good dregde player wouldnt go off till they cabal therapy and know their opponents hand.

However, against other decks, playing balancing tings w/ draco n explosion, dealing 16 on turn 3-4-5 is pretty much game if they've taken any pain from lands and are tapped out, and tings with gargadon suspended or brushhopper rfg'd def clears things up.

So I guess the choice is Balancing Tings w/ 4x Crypt + 4x Exirpate or Tog w/ 4x Exirpate + 4x Leyline...

beanbungo · Joined: 09 Oct 2005 Posts: 40

Ok guys I apologize, I have to go back to the scrapbook of looking for decks because the PTQ isnt until 2/22 and just found out morningtide will be legal, so of course that changes things, haven't looked at the new set too much, but same disputes will be risen im sure because dredge will obv still be played, so now I have to find a decent deck w/ morningtide....

da_penguin · Guest

u run too much hate which makes ur deck worse against other decks. morningtide doesnt change much, just run tog with 1 extirpate side to cunning wish for.

AkYo · Joined: 06 Oct 2006 Posts: 177

the best advice on how to play against it is to play the dam deck.. you have online as help... figure out when the best time to pop crypt or sacing mogg