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KeySam
Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 491
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 12:16 pm Post subject: Underrated Cards in extended |
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This topic is here to spot cards that are not played enough / at all in extended. I will update this post for each card you mention(of course i wont add tarmogoyf ) . Here some things i think about.
3BB
Haunting Echoes
Sorcery
Remove all Cards in target players graveyard but basic lands from the game. Search that players library for all cards as the same name as cards removed this way and remove them from the game.
(this card could be good in an controlish deck, it also can win easily games against dredge if you can cast it in time)
XBBB
Death Cloud
Sorcery
Each players loses x life, then sacrifices x lands, ... x creatures, then discards x cards.
1W
Supression Field
Enchantment
Activated abilities cost 2 more to play, as long their not mana abilities. (hits fetchlands, top, psyatog....)
2R
Blood Moon/Magus of the Moon
(you should know that ones, i think their to less played)
Comments, new cards, everything is welcome.
edit: Suggestions from this post
from counter_tm : Etched Oracle, Overload, Ghastly Demise, Desolation Angel, Mystic Enforcer, Opt, Recoil, Sword of Light/Shadow, Wing Shards, Shivan Wurm, Pyrite Spellbomb
from maskmyg: Destructive Fllow.
from Flippi: Nefarious Lich.
2 people: Stiffle.
from Eldariel: Veldakans Shakles
from aldaryn: Slith Firewalker
from aceben3: dampen matrix
Discuss!(i answered later in this thread).
Last edited by KeySam on Thu Dec 20, 2007 3:32 pm; edited 9 times in total |
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Thorns
Joined: 16 Aug 2006 Posts: 807 Location: Rath
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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Haunting Echoes costs too much to do so good. Besides, the top decks in Extended right now are NO-Stick, some Goblins and Gaea Zoo. Against Stick, it doesn't really matter, either they'll counter it, or it's too late cause they got Scepters in play already. Against Gobbos and Zoo, you probably lost by the time you can play it.
I've seen Rock decks playing Cloud. It's just not as powerful as when it was in Standard and there are much more consistent and powerful Rock builds out there.
Suppression Field has nothing to suppress. I haven't seen a 'Tog deck in ages... Besides they'll just counter it. Pithing Needle is a better answer to such decks anyway.
There aren't really any decks to use the Moon duo in. If RDW makes a comeback, you can probably expect 3-4 Magus of the Moon in the sideboard, maybe. |
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mufl0n
Joined: 30 Jul 2006 Posts: 52
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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Bog Hoodlums
Its playable in the right Combodeck.
Remember my words.BogHoodlums.dec will rise. |
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MilanG[GER]
Joined: 10 May 2006 Posts: 58
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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"the top decks in Extended right now are NO-Stick, some Goblins and Gaea Zoo"
did you sniff the wrong glue? |
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Thorns
Joined: 16 Aug 2006 Posts: 807 Location: Rath
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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| MilanG[GER] wrote: | "the top decks in Extended right now are NO-Stick, some Goblins and Gaea Zoo"
did you sniff the wrong glue? |
Sorry if your meta is different from mine. |
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MilanG[GER]
Joined: 10 May 2006 Posts: 58
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Thorns wrote: | | MilanG[GER] wrote: | "the top decks in Extended right now are NO-Stick, some Goblins and Gaea Zoo"
did you sniff the wrong glue? |
Sorry if your meta is different from mine. |
ok can't tell about your local meta ( not meant to be an offence, but who should care for it anyways? ) thought it would be about format in general, in which none of those decks are on the top for more than 100% |
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Holzi
Joined: 06 May 2006 Posts: 31
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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Meta is
Countertop, Goblins, Ideal, Any BGx Goyf Aggro decks |
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counter_tm
Joined: 19 Dec 2007 Posts: 1
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 1:35 pm Post subject: Underrated cards.... |
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| Etched Oracle, Overload, Ghastly Demise, Desolation Angel, Mystic Enforcer, Opt, Recoil, Sword of Light/Shadow, Wing Shards, Shivan Wurm, Pyrite Spellbomb...to name a few that are underplayed and underrated. |
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Jacois
Joined: 05 Sep 2004 Posts: 427
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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| stifle |
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Conkisstador
Joined: 08 Sep 2004 Posts: 247
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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supression field is devesatating in many many matchups. make tog actually swing 20 times. fetchlands become bad (but then u cant play them so your base is suboptimal). diving top is disabled.
and then you'll slow downa lot of powerful cards
seismic assault
pernicious deed
goblin sharpshooter/ siegegang/ skirk prospector
its just a great card in general.
iso scepter costing 4 is no slouch either. |
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MaksymG
Joined: 24 Apr 2006 Posts: 174
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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MaksymG
Joined: 24 Apr 2006 Posts: 174
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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| wow 3 posts in one minute, I guess I have to add something that hasn't actually been already posted so I will go with destructive flow, if blood moon and magus deserve a spot this does as well |
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Jacois
Joined: 05 Sep 2004 Posts: 427
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Conkisstador wrote: | supression field is devesatating in many many matchups. make tog actually swing 20 times. fetchlands become bad (but then u cant play them so your base is suboptimal). diving top is disabled.
and then you'll slow downa lot of powerful cards
seismic assault
pernicious deed
goblin sharpshooter/ siegegang/ skirk prospector
its just a great card in general.
iso scepter costing 4 is no slouch either. |
It doesn't stop prospector, but yeah, suppression field is underrated. |
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CMA-Flippi Administrator
Joined: 19 Mar 2005 Posts: 449 Location: Weiterstad
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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Several of my team members will play Death Cloud in Vienna, i couldnt convince anyone to play the underrated Nefarious Lich  |
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Mihealsick
Joined: 20 Sep 2004 Posts: 12
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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Suppression Field is a card I love, but not quite as good this season as it was last season.
Me and a buddy put together a Suppression Field-centric deck for the extended season last year, and he came in 2nd place in an Atlanta PTQ, his only loss was to the luckiest kid I've ever seen in the finals playing UW tron. His matchups were Counterbalance Tog, Affinity, two other Tron decks (one in t4), two Levy Zoo decks (one in t , and not sure what else.
His deck, aptly named "The Butt"
4 Savannah Lions
3 Isamaru, Hound of Konda
3 Boros Swiftblade
4 Silver Knight
2 Skyhunter Skirmisher
2 Kataki, War's Wage
2 Exalted Angel
3 Boom/Bust
4 Molten Rain
4 Lightning Helix
4 Chrome Mox
4 Reckless Charge
4 Suppression Field
4 Battlefield Forge
4 Sacred Foundry
4 Flagstones of Trokair
3 Mountain
2 Plains
Too bad it almost scoops to Tarmogoyf. Then there's Derrick Sheets's deck, came in 4th at a Knoxville ptq.
4 Birds of Paradise
4 Dark Confidant
3 Isamaru, Hound of Konda
2 Loxodon Heirarch
4 Watchwolf
4 Suppression Field
3 Putrefy
4 Call of the Herd
4 Cabal Therapy
3 Armadillo Cloak
4 Vindicate
3 Overgrown Tomb
2 Temple Garden
3 Windswept Heath
2 Swamp
2 Plains
3 Forest
1 Brushland
2 Caves of Koilos
3 Llanowar Wastes
Suppression Field is amazing against just saclands when you don't run them, but in addition to the things already mentioned, it hurts:
- Sakura-Tribe Elder
- Sensei's Divining Top
- Arcbound Ravager
- Cranial Plating
- Blinkmoth Nexus
- All cycling cards
- Jitte/Sword
- Academy Ruins
- Mindslaver
- Engineered Explosives
- Decree of Justice
- Mogg Fanatic
and the list goes on. |
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