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the_lackey
Joined: 29 Apr 2007
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 Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 6:39 pm Post subject: Undead Warchief, Nameless Inversion and Haakon. |
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| If Haakon (says you can play knight "cards" from your graveyard) and the Undead Warchief (says zombie spells cost you one less to play) Can I play Nameless Inversion (A tribal changling instant which counts as every creature type) from my graveyard for just "B"? Someone I know was telling me I couldn't much for the same reason they changed Amouro Scout's wording. Thanks. The Lackey. |
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FR33BALLA247
Joined: 14 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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| yes, you can play it for 1 cheaper |
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Hardtrack
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Manipulation
Joined: 10 Mar 2006
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Location: Oxnard
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| Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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You can, because Changeling makes it Zombie and Knight. And Beast. And Goat. And Bird. And Goblin. But not Mexican.
Anyways, it doesn't have to be one or the other, like Coat of Arms forces you to choose when you have lots of two-creature types creatures. |
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Aggroman
Joined: 09 Sep 2004
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 12:55 am Post subject: |
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You can, because Changeling makes it Zombie and Knight. So it costs 1 B left.
Just in case you didnt get it the first time. |
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Hardtrack
Joined: 10 Aug 2005
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:43 am Post subject: |
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| Manipulation wrote: | | Anyways, it doesn't have to be one or the other, like Coat of Arms forces you to choose when you have lots of two-creature types creatures. |
Ehm... how exactly is Coat of Arms forcing you to choose a creature type? |
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Eldar
Joined: 27 Nov 2006
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Location: Rochester
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 8:32 am Post subject: |
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| He means that if you have like say 10 elf warrior tokens and 3 other elves that aren't warriors that you would choose elves because the bonus is bigger. |
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lennin
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 8:48 am Post subject: |
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| u dont choose with coat of arms it just happens, they share a creature type and they get bigger. |
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Craze
Joined: 30 Jan 2005
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Location: Indiana, U
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:31 am Post subject: |
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coat of arms doesn't look for any certain creature type, it looks for creatures that share a creature type.
you have 5 normals elves in play and three elf warriors, they get all get bonuses not because their elves but because they share at least 1 creature type with 7 other creatures in play. Thus additional shared creature types don't give additional bonuses. |
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Hardtrack
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:31 am Post subject: |
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| You don't choose anything. They are all Elves so they all get the bonus. If there was a Human Warrior he would get +10/+10 because there are also ten Warriors. That he's not an Elf doesn't matter. |
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Eldar
Joined: 27 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Exactly my point the biggest possible bonus is the one they get. |
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Avata
Joined: 03 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Eldar wrote: | | Exactly my point the biggest possible bonus is the one they get. |
Not accurate.
If you have one human warrior in play, along with 3 elf warriors and 3 human wizards, the human warrior gets +6+6, which is more than the "biggest possible bonus" you could get by counting either warriors or humans.
Note that if there are four human warriors in play, they each only get +3+3.
A creature can get bonuses for more than one creature type with coat of arms, it just doesn't get more than +1+1 for each creature.
Either way you don't choose which creature type to count.
You count the number of creatures that share a type, you don't count the number of types they share. |
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Manipulation
Joined: 10 Mar 2006
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Location: Oxnard
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Avata wrote: |
Either way you don't choose which creature type to count.
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Yeah, I worded my response wrong, but you get my point. You only get one type of bonus. |
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Hardtrack
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| Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 3:39 am Post subject: |
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| Manipulation wrote: | | Yeah, I worded my response wrong, but you get my point. You only get one type of bonus. |
Ok, that's not much better. I'm pretty sure you're talking about the right thing, but 'one type of bonus' doesn't mean anything and is bound to give someone misconceptions. |
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