Does Beacon of Immotality counts "gain life"??

litianhang · Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Posts: 2

My friend and i had an argue the other day when he has a Rain of gor(the BR enchantment) in play and i cast white beacon, do i double my life total of i lose life equal my current life total?[/u]

rockshard · Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Posts: 111

If your life total increases that is considered gaining life.

litianhang · Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Posts: 2

thx for replying.
but on the beacon it says "double" ur life total, not gain life tho, any judge here can confirm it?

ANEURYSM · Joined: 29 Mar 2005 Posts: 63

Changes in life totals are treated as life gains (increases) or losses (decreases).

research ftw.

rockshard · Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Posts: 111

That's what I meant. X(

Eldar · Joined: 27 Nov 2006 Posts: 332 Location: Rochester

Rain of Gore doesn't work with beacon like that flores already tried that until he was told otherwise.

yho · Joined: 25 Nov 2004 Posts: 25

beacon + rain of bore = dead?

Ffancrzy · Joined: 30 Apr 2006 Posts: 94

Arathomir · Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 231

From Oracle:

7/15/2007 Beacon of Immortality's effect counts as life gain (or life loss, if the life total was negative) for effects that trigger on or replace life gain (or life loss).

It's official...

sup3rm4n · Joined: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 2

rain of gore says if a spell or ablitity he controls causes a player to gain life blah blah blah..

so your opponent has to control the beacon for it to work.. if he casts beacon with gore out then extend the hand for a slap to his face Very Happy

Arathomir · Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 231

You apparently shouldn't use your first post for a wrong answer. Rain of Gore affects both players, so if either player were to gain life in any way, they'd lose life instead.

The only time Rain of Gore won't affect Beacon of Immortality is when the player has negative life, which either means they have Platinum Angel or a Lich in play. Either way, there's no good reason to make your life even more negative...

aldaryn · Joined: 02 Sep 2004 Posts: 408

Arathomir is wrong. Rain of Gore requires that you control the ability. You can't beacon your opponent and make them lose life with Rain of Gore, but it happens if you beacon yourself.

Another example, when I first got back in the game, my opponent played Rain of Gore, and I condemned his Sol'kanar. He took 5...but he wasn't supposed to.

Arathomir · Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 231

I probably should have been clearer. What Sup3rm4n (god I hate leet speak) said, or as I interpreted it, was that the Rain of Gore has to be controlled by the opponent for you to lose life, which is incorrect.

I should also add that I don't suggest playing Grove of the Burnwillows with Rain of Gore in play, as it won't do what you want it to do.

aldaryn · Joined: 02 Sep 2004 Posts: 408

I see what you are saying. Sorry for my rudeness there!

sup3rm4n · Joined: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 2

my post was rather clear.. that is all