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4 color (splashing 5th) Stuffy/Pariah


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metroman722



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

a 13 damage beat stick
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kfcman



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think the best Stuffy Doll/Pariah decks are gonna be UWr. U for card draw and counters, W for wrath and pariah, and splash r for helix and some other tricks
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Flamancipatr



Joined: 25 Oct 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see you playing with 4 Underground River and a single Island, but your only use for blue is.... a single Academy Ruins? Yuck. Just play some Terramorphic Expanse and a single Island, and between that and your lenses, you should be able to cover that single blue very easily.

Also, we still have the Ravnica block in type 2, and the dual lands would help you out a lot. It looks like you're going to be taking a lot of pain.

Sylvan Scrying is just silly. Unless you can use it to find something like Gaea's Cradle or Tolarian Academy, there's really no advantage to playing it over something like Rampant Growth or Coalition Relic.

What's the Gaea's Blessing for? Afraid of decking yourself? Waste of 2 cards...

You may want to consider Pariah's Shield over Pariah, seeing as how the shield is reusable and you could play 3 of them over 4 easily-killed enchantments.

Avoid Fate is a waste of a slot. Burn is already negated by Stuffy's abilities, and targeted removal such as Strangling Soot are played very infrequently in type 2, not to mention how you can't stop a Sudden Death... You really have no way of stopping a Damnation or Wrath of God, which will usually be the thing removing your Stuffy Doll. Academy Ruins should suffice for keeping the doll in play.

That's my $0.02.
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thedarkness



Joined: 13 Jul 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Err..Wrath of God and Damnation don't destroy Stuffy Doll.

What are you talking about? o.o
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biggy93



Joined: 26 May 2007
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Flamancipatr"] You really have no way of stopping a Damnation or Wrath of God, which will usually be the thing removing your Stuffy Doll. Academy Ruins should suffice for keeping the doll in play.

wow ur the bigist noob i have met so far
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kobisjeruk



Joined: 04 Jun 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

here's my take on stuffy-pariah comob :-

// NAME: Stuff-Full-O-Crap.dec

// Lands
3 [10E] Adarkar Wastes
2 [TSP] Academy Ruins
3 [TSP] Calciform Pools
4 [10E] Battlefield Forge
3 [10E] Shivan Reef
1 [UNH] Plains
1 [AN] Mountain
2 [UNH] Island
3 [DIS] Hallowed Fountain
3 [GP] Steam Vents

// Creatures
4 [TSP] Stuffy Doll
2 [10E] Razormane Masticore
3 [10E] Squee, Goblin Nabob
1 [10E] Platinum Angel

// Spells
3 [TSP] Careful Consideration
3 [10E] Wrath of God
2 [RAV] Pariah's Shield
2 [10E] Pariah
2 [CS] Vanish into Memory
4 [RAV] Lightning Helix
3 [TSP] Sulfurous Blast
3 [TSP] Prismatic Lens
3 [FUT] Coalition Relic

One silliy thing is, you can recur and cast Squee every turn.

Wait!
Why do you ever want to cast it?
Well, to put Pariah Shield on it of course Wink
(this is to stall if you havent drawn a doll obv)


And vanish into Memory is really good with razormane and also to protect your doll against -x/-x effect
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bgalb



Joined: 07 Apr 2005
Posts: 25

PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SiRpOpTart15 wrote:
ok heres the updated list. Constructive Criticism please

Land - 23

1 Acadamy Ruins
4 Battlefield Forge
3 Brushland
3 Karplusion Forest
1 Llanowar Wastes
1 Forest
1 Island
1 Mountain
1 Plains
2 Swamp
2 Sulforous Springs
3 Terramorphic Expanse

Creatures - 8

2 Firemane Angel
4 Stuffy Doll
2 Tamanoa

Artifacts - 11

4 Lotus Bloom
3 Pariah Shield
4 Prismatic Lens

Other - 18

3 Damnation
4 Harmonize
4 Lightning Helix
2 Pariah
3 Pyroclasm
2 Pyrohemia

k just a few changes. 3 pariah shields which are harder to get rid of. and only 2 pariah. Added Lotus bloom to speed things up also Very Happy. Post some ideas/improvements plz


black is only in there for damnation...
cant u use the white u already have and make it WoG instead?
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kobisjeruk



Joined: 04 Jun 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SiRpOpTart15 wrote:
sweet idea kobi. I like squee, razormane and vanish into memory ideas.
Thank you.

One thing i forgot to mention, Stuff-Full-O-Crap.dec will have to face splash damage (??) from decks that sideboard in graveyard hate...

But hey, who doesn't hate the graveyard? I know I do.
Wish there was a way to remove the graveyard from the game
(bad pun intended :/)

And by the way, my nickname is kobisjeruk, NOT kobi
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fencer17



Joined: 26 Jun 2006
Posts: 14

PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

heres my list of a R/W stuffy

10 snow-covered plains
10 snow-covered mountains
3 sacred foundry



4 stuffy doll
3 mistmeadow shulk
3 volcanic hellion
4 paladin en-vec
4 soltari priest


3 molten disaster
4 spirit loop
4 daybreak coronet
4 pariah
4 whispersilk cloak
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silverbullet



Joined: 27 Oct 2006
Posts: 20

PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 4:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi! I've got a different variation of the 4 color splash Stuffy Pariah combo, which I've edited after initially posting the idea a few weeks back on another thread. I thought you might be interested:

3 Temple Garden
3 Sacred Foundry
3 Stomping Ground
1 Academy Ruins
1 Ghost Quarter
1 Urza's Factory
1 Forest
1 Plains
1 Island
1 Nimbus Maze
2 Karplusan Forest
1 Tolaria West
4 Stuffy Doll
2 Firemane Angel
4 Troll Ascetic
4 Loxodon Hierarch
1 Simic Sky Swallower
3 Harmonize
2 Char
4 Lightning Helix
1 Molten Disaster
4 Pariah
3 Farseek
2 Simic Signet
2 Selesnya Signet
1 Gruul Signet
2 Breeding Pool
2 Aeon Chronicler
// Sideboard:
SB: 3 Tormod's Crypt
SB: 4 Quagnoth
SB: 2 Loxodon Warhammer
SB: 2 Krosan Grip
SB: 2 Teferi's Moat
SB: 2 Take Possession

I've been seeing threads and topics on how people want to protect the combo of Pariah+Stuffy Doll. Here's my solution: Let them deal with other threats, which are almost equally as threatening.

Troll Ascetic can definitely be in for the combo with Pariah, other than being a threat having 'semi-shroud'. Instead of having Lotus Bloom as your mana accelerations, Farseek and the signets will do the honors. Other creatures with 'semi-shroud' or shroud are there to make things harder. Indeed they may have some Sudden Deaths and Funeral Charms to stop Stuffy Doll, yet they have to deal with the other threats. To finish the job, Char, Lightning Helix and Molten Disaster can do it, if your creatures fail to do so.

What do you think?
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