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naifler
Joined: 04 Jul 2007 Posts: 23
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 2:03 am Post subject: Don't Believe In The Hoax Of Evolution, Part II |
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Don't Believe In The Hoax Of Evolution, Part II
Introduction:
It has come to my attention that, even after my previous attempts at shedding light on this issue as you may remember, many of you stick to the dying theory (not fact) of evolution, and thus, priving yourselves of salvation, and subsecuently, the wonderful prize from God, heaven. With this in mind I've prepared another journal and pray for your attention, comprehension and open mindedness.
The Theory of Evolution:
As the title states, evolution is nothing but a theory, weak and unfounded, belief in this concept is nothing but irrationality, contrary to basically every piece of evidence that science has put forward in the latest decades and behemently denied by respectable researchers. Not only is this a blatant falsehood, but it also is insulting, stating we are nothing but a monkey's grandsons and granddaughters, insinuating we are merely the bestial sidekicks of gorillas, comparable to mindless pools of goo.
But why is such a concept still appearing on our children's classrooms? Because we are being lead appart from our path towards our Lord Jesus Christ, in order to deny us our celestial destiny aside God Almighty, do not forget how the Holy Bible states we christians will endure harsh tests of faith, remember that the only way for our spirits to survive this onslaught is to shield yourself agains the dangerous ideas of these filthy manipulists and inform yourself of what the truth is as stated by God's Word, the Holy Bible, guiding his children in the gloomy moments we are facing.
The Fact of Creation:
Now you might ask "If evolution is false, then what is true?" The answer is in the holy scriptures of course, which state the universe was created approximately 6000 years ago in 6 24-hour long periods, along with all kind of creatures, including humans, by the Almighty Creator. "But how can we trust in this?" you might ponder, and the answer is simple, The Bible the infallible word of God, who certainly was there at the moment of creation unlike Charles Darwin and the evolutionists' crew (I might add that, in his finals deathbed moments, Mr. Darwin denied his own theory and rightfully converted to christianity, not before unleashing his terrorizing theory however.)
This is something hard to swallow for a lot of people, so I've collected what is simply a small shard of the abundant evidence supporting what already is evident, and am willing to answer any question you might have, enjoy!
http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/bios/#presentsci -- An extremely large list of creation scientists
http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v22/i1/creation.asp -- Evidence for evolution is evidence for creation
http://www.answersingenesis.org/tj/v18/i1/oldearth.asp -- The truth behind the old-earth lie
http://www.answersingenesis.org/tj/v13/i2/nazi.asp -- Evolution caused the Holocaust
http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v26/i1/game.asp -- Flawed dating leads us to flawed theories
http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v20/i3/big_bang.asp -- Big Bang, big lie
http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/re2/chapter5.asp -- Regarding mutations
http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs/4005.asp -- Even more evidence for a young earth
http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/magazines/tj/docs/v17n2_cosmology.pdf -- Solutions to the speed of light "problem"
http://www.answersingenesis.org/tj/v14/i1/females.asp -- Darwinism and sexism
http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs/2.asp -- Bible's predictions regarding dinosaurs
http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs/510.asp -- The universe is just too perfectly tuned
http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v25/i4/lighttravel.asp -- Light is a problem for evolution, not creation!
http://www.trueorigin.org/helium01.asp -- Too much helium means a young earth
http://www.trueorigin.org/steiger.asp -- The second law of thermodynamics against evolution
http://www.trueorigin.org/to_deception.asp -- A critique to the Theory of Evolution's homepage
http://www.trueorigin.org/geocolumn.asp -- The Geologic Column: Does it exist?
http://www.trueorigin.org/sex01.asp -- No place for genders in evolution
http://www.trueorigin.org/abio.asp -- Why abiogenesis is impossible
http://www.trueorigin.org/pepmoth1.asp -- Peppered moths are no proof of evolution
http://www.users.bigpond.com/rdoolan/coelacanth.html -- Coelacanth -- the fish that defied evolution
http://www.users.bigpond.com/rdoolan/christianevo.html -- Can Christians believe in evolution?
http://www.users.bigpond.com/rdoolan/tyrants.html -- Why evolution creates tyrants like Hitler, Stalin and Trotsky
http://www.users.bigpond.com/rdoolan/lucy.html -- Lucy isn't evolution's missing link
http://www.users.bigpond.com/rdoolan/bibletrue.html -- Is the Bible true?
http://www.users.bigpond.com/rdoolan/sharkray.html -- Sharks and rays. Did they evolve, or did God create them?
http://www.users.bigpond.com/rdoolan/feet.html -- Extremities cannot evolve
http://objectiveministries.org/creation/slot.html -- Once again the second law of thermodynamics against evolution
http://objectiveministries.org/creation/eye.html -- Evolution is not compatible with modern eyes
http://objectiveministries.org/creation/propaganda.html -- Evolutionists' tactics exposed
http://objectiveministries.org/creation/sciencefair.html -- Creation Science Fair 2001: Kids tell us how creation happened
http://objectiveministries.org/creation/moon.html -- The Moon gives us a message from God
http://www.drdino.com/articles.php?spec=59 -- Regarding "early men" fossils
http://www.drdino.com/articles.php?spec=76 -- A huge list of issues with evolution
http://www.drdino.com/articles.php?spec=13 -- More info about fossils in general
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZFG5PKw504 -- The food industry disproves evolution
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaKryi3605g -- Evolution's messiah gets stumped on a vital question for evolution
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNTGmoTb8sw -- Kirc Cameron disproves evolution on Bill O'Reilly's show
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZR022_GbzU -- Dr. Kent Hovind, Ph.D. on the age of the earth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnEg4b8QiHM -- 100 Reasons why evolution is so stupid! With Dr. Kent Hovind
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvyQRdlKiwI -- Satan invented the theory of evolution
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_gu0RYIToE -- Once again, evolution is being disproved
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31cRVrKbfSE -- An impartial documental on darwinism
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeQxaYyqvos -- A very interesting documental regarding the falsehood of evolution
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTWL57IxCUI -- South Park on the origin of species
http://web.archive.org/web/20000302093840/www.drdino.com/ -- If you prove evolution is right, Dr. Kent Hovind will make you rich!
http://secular.embassyofheaven.com/usa/shamreligiousfreedom.htm -- The secular tyrany of freedom of religion
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn3275 -- Artificial organism proves that life arises from intelligence
http://freehovind.com/index -- Evolutionists sink to new lows, Dr. Kent Hovind jailed for preaching the truth
http://www.galluppoll.com/content/default.aspx?ci=27847 -- 43% of the best nation's population can't be wrong about creation
As I mentioned earlier, if there is something you do not understand or have any other question not answered in the above links, you are able to reply with said question and I'll answer it as soon as God allows me to.
"The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God." Psalm 14:1
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Arcanis
Joined: 03 Nov 2004 Posts: 16
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 2:18 am Post subject: |
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LOL!
i really hope this is a joke.. but i dont think it is..
you state you want openmindness..
yet look at your poll.. hahaha!
and by the way, if you really wanted openmindness, ud realize MANY people do not believe in god, or do not choose to believe ur theories.
in my opinion, you are anoter stereotypical religious bastard who masturbates at night and prays for forgiveness the next evening. |
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naifler
Joined: 04 Jul 2007 Posts: 23
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 2:26 am Post subject: |
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| Arcanis wrote: | LOL!
i really hope this is a joke.. but i dont think it is..
you state you want openmindness..
yet look at your poll.. hahaha!
and by the way, if you really wanted openmindness, ud realize MANY people do not believe in god, or do not choose to believe ur theories. |
Excuse me if I was too pushy with my first comments, but I am pretty sure after any seriously critical mind examines the evidence I've presented, they'll side with the godly truth, thus justifying the way I presented the poll, among other things.
Additionally, you cannot "choose" what you believe, you can only choose to act as if you do, and in doing so you're basically lying to yourself and others.
One last thing, the final paragraph in your post is really unnecessary, let alone a gross blasphemy and a blatant disregard for the rules on these fora. I've deleted that part in my quote and hope that you edit it out in your post. |
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Arcanis
Joined: 03 Nov 2004 Posts: 16
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 2:36 am Post subject: |
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"after any seriously critical mind examines the evidence i've presented, theyll side with the godly truth.."
so youre concluding numerous very well educated scientists as well as others are simply, well, not critical?
i feel like i'm arguing with someone who sees everything one way.
i REALLY wish this was a joke, its sad to know how some people actually operate this way :[
"you cannot "choose" what you believe, you can only choose to act as if you do, and in doing so you're basically lying to yourself and others."
so say i dont believe in god.. im lying to myself and others theres not a god?
why?
simply because this is what you and other religious freaks say?
you hardly seem open-minded.
delete this: your always correct grammar on a magic the gathering forum bugs the fuck out of me |
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naifler
Joined: 04 Jul 2007 Posts: 23
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 2:42 am Post subject: |
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| Arcanis wrote: | "after any seriously critical mind examines the evidence i've presented, theyll side with the godly truth.."
so youre concluding numerous very well educated scientists as well as others are simply, well, not critical?
i feel like i'm arguing with someone who sees everything one way.
i REALLY wish this was a joke, its sad to know how some people actually operate this way :[
"you cannot "choose" what you believe, you can only choose to act as if you do, and in doing so you're basically lying to yourself and others."
so say i dont believe in god.. im lying to myself and others theres not a god?
why?
simply because this is what you and other religious freaks say?
you hardly seem open-minded.
delete this: your always correct grammar on a magic the gathering forum bugs the fuck out of me |
Sadly, yes, various scientists and other philosophers are deluded into believing this terrifying hoax, it's a shame really, but if more people cast light on these issues, we can stop this metaphorical plague from spreading.
You seem to misunderstand me, you can believe in God or not, but you can't "choose" either, if you are convinced of one of these, saying the opposite won't change that. |
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Arcanis
Joined: 03 Nov 2004 Posts: 16
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 2:45 am Post subject: |
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| lol is all |
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Arcanis
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Jorbes
Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 258 Location: Netherland
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 2:58 am Post subject: |
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Arcanis, dont waste your time on this *words that would get me banned* person, let it go.
There is no way to have a decent discussion with fanatics, trust me, we've all tried.
Somehow at the end of each sentence they try to make us believe we are liars, cheaters and sometimes even demonic. |
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naifler
Joined: 04 Jul 2007 Posts: 23
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 3:09 am Post subject: |
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| Jorbes wrote: | Arcanis, dont waste your time on this *words that would get me banned* person, let it go.
There is no way to have a decent discussion with fanatics, trust me, we've all tried.
Somehow at the end of each sentence they try to make us believe we are liars, cheaters and sometimes even demonic. |
You can continue with your ad hominem attacks, or you can actually address my points and, if possible, form a counter-argument, so far no one has presented any evidence in favour of evolution, or as i like to say, "evilution," and have done nothing but throw random negative assumptions toward my person based on my beliefs.
Pure bigotry I might say. |
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Jorbes
Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 258 Location: Netherland
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:08 am Post subject: |
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| I would address your points if you actually made any. |
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Raybelfast
Joined: 30 Jan 2007 Posts: 32
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:16 am Post subject: |
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I love people like you, really I do. The amount of entertainment you guys supply to the world is awesome. See no christians I have no beef with. Its just they dismiss other ideas as false when they cannot even prove thier own.
Show me one person who can give me solid facts that God exists other than in a book that could have been written by an opium high egyptian.
Also, why is there no record of dinosaurs in the bible, or the big meteor that mangled the gulf of mexico. That would be a big enough event to warrant inclusion in the good book. God's wrath and all that. I suppose all those fossils and crap are hoaxes too.
Seems too me your the one brainwashed by the hoax my friend. |
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naifler
Joined: 04 Jul 2007 Posts: 23
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:38 am Post subject: |
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| Jorbes wrote: | | I would address your points if you actually made any. |
I take it, you didn't click any of the 50 pieces of blue text all over my original post.
| Quote: | I love people like you, really I do. The amount of entertainment you guys supply to the world is awesome. See no christians I have no beef with. Its just they dismiss other ideas as false when they cannot even prove thier own.
Also, why is there no record of dinosaurs in the bible, or the big meteor that mangled the gulf of mexico. That would be a big enough event to warrant inclusion in the good book. God's wrath and all that. I suppose all those fossils and crap are hoaxes too.
Seems too me your the one brainwashed by the hoax my friend. |
Finally, a counter argument.
I believe this was mentioned in one of Dr. Kent Hovind, Ph. D.'s link, and it might surprise you to know they are mentioned, but not by the name of dinosaurs of course. If memory serves, they are described in Job and fit accordingly to what modern paleonthology tells us. I might add this was mentioned in one of the links I gave.
Regarding the meteor thing, do not forget the only thing we know about it is that there is a crater in the Gulf of Mexico, there are various explanations for it, including it being a simple crater formed during the Great Flood, just like the Grand Cannon wich isn't mentioned. Other explanation and probably simpler is that the meteor caused a disaster of minor proportions, if it caused one at all, we do not know enough of it to say it was even worth mentioning. |
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Daveslusher
Joined: 05 Nov 2006 Posts: 202
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:37 am Post subject: |
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Where to start.....
I quote this paragraph from Evidence for evolution is evidence for creation
"I’ve found that a Christian who understands these things can actually put on the evolutionist’s glasses (without accepting the presuppositions as true) and understand how they look at evidence. However, for a number of reasons, including spiritual ones, a non-Christian usually can’t put on the Christian’s glasses—unless they recognize the presuppositional nature of the battle and are thus beginning to question their own presuppositions."
So your to assume that all non-christians are biggoted and NEVER see eye to eye and chirstians can see all points of views while your on here preaching to a thankless crowd trying to change their minds? THAT sounds biggoted to me no?
"I might add that, in his finals deathbed moments, Mr. Darwin denied his own theory and rightfully converted to christianity, not before unleashing his terrorizing theory however."
It's called senility, when an old person because less sane due to aging.
I think the topic says it all for the next one.
"Evolution caused the Holocaust"
I apologize if i offend you however, that does NOT EXCUSE THE SHEER RUDENESS THIS TOPIC ALONE IMPLIES. I have read this and it truly doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Your able to constrew 1 variant and make EVERYONE ELSE seem like they believe the MOST extreme point of view on the darwinisim spectrum.
"http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs/510.asp"
Science is currently trying to explain every single of of those details. You currently had the upper hand because it's near impossible to figure out these things. I guess taking advantage of the speed of progress just doesn't work for you either huh? |
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RichardDWade
Joined: 20 Mar 2006 Posts: 438
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:05 am Post subject: |
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Here is my take. I grew up as a protestant Christian going to church every Sunday, taking communion and even ringing the morning bell. I always considered both sides of the argument but could never truly decide which I believed in, even though I was taught about blind faith and that I would go to hell otherwise (nice scare tactics). Soon after my confirmation and baptism I turned 18, was allowed to do what I wanted, and haven't stepped foot in a church since. Over the years I've realized that though I don't know if there is a "god" I have come to believe that Christianity has been bastardized over the years to control the general public. Making them conform to stupid laws such as not being able to buy alcohol on Sundays... I find it very hard to believe in something I have not witnessed myself and my only evidence is a coded history book and what people who lived in an even more repressed time than I do tell me.
As for Darwinism, excellent theory. No real way to prove it yet, but excellent and most believable so far. Until we have about a million years of recorded natural history behind us, I think trying to argue in favor is moot.
So my suggestion to everyone who can't decide for themselves, is to live peacefully, don't take more than you need and try to do the right thing whenever possible.
And as for you, naifler, you come off as very holier than thou, you have a very methodically nasty tone to your articles, and in my presumption, have never left the small bible belt state you live in to go explore the world and its other beautiful religions and cultures.
Edit: I just read the poll, and it disgusts me. "Brainwashed" huh? How about " I have read the evidence produced to me, and have decided that evolution best fits what I CHOOSE to believe". And yes, you CAN choose what you believe.
http://www.venganza.org/
http://www.subgenius.com/
^ some links for those who haven't CHOSEN what to believe yet. |
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naifler
Joined: 04 Jul 2007 Posts: 23
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:11 am Post subject: |
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| Daveslusher wrote: | Where to start.....
I quote this paragraph from Evidence for evolution is evidence for creation
"I’ve found that a Christian who understands these things can actually put on the evolutionist’s glasses (without accepting the presuppositions as true) and understand how they look at evidence. However, for a number of reasons, including spiritual ones, a non-Christian usually can’t put on the Christian’s glasses—unless they recognize the presuppositional nature of the battle and are thus beginning to question their own presuppositions."
So your to assume that all non-christians are biggoted and NEVER see eye to eye and chirstians can see all points of views while your on here preaching to a thankless crowd trying to change their minds? THAT sounds biggoted to me no? |
It does sound presumptious, but not without reason. You see, the only way a human can possibly hope to grasp the sheer magnificence of God's creation as a christian would is to accept the Lord Jesus Christ as your personal savior and be infused with the Holy Spirit, otherwise you are unable to comprehend the very foundations of our universe.
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"I might add that, in his finals deathbed moments, Mr. Darwin denied his own theory and rightfully converted to christianity, not before unleashing his terrorizing theory however."
It's called senility, when an old person because less sane due to aging. |
On that same light old people become wiser due to aging, giving him the ability to understand the problems in his own theory.
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I think the topic says it all for the next one.
"Evolution caused the Holocaust"
I apologize if i offend you however, that does NOT EXCUSE THE SHEER RUDENESS THIS TOPIC ALONE IMPLIES. I have read this and it truly doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Your able to constrew 1 variant and make EVERYONE ELSE seem like they believe the MOST extreme point of view on the darwinisim spectrum. |
It was still caused by the most basic foundaments of evolution, wether evolutionists delude them into thinking so or not.
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"http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs/510.asp"
Science is currently trying to explain every single of of those details. You currently had the upper hand because it's near impossible to figure out these things. I guess taking advantage of the speed of progress just doesn't work for you either huh? |
We know enough of these details to tell how they can be, how they need to be in order to maintain life and how they currently are. We have all the information we need to draw a conclusion.[/quote]
Unfortunatedly I have to go, but worry not, for I'll be back at a later time.
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