Hulk Breach

KeySam · Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 522

Ok, first of all i just wanna show you the idea, the list isnt optimal by any means, but therefore it works pretty good. After the banning of flash in legacy i thouhgt about abuse Protean Hulk in extended. I found short after that Through the Breach. If you dont remember the card here is what it does.
4R
Instant/Arcane
Put target creature card from your hand into play it gains haste. Sacrifice it at end of your turn.
Splice onto Arcane 2RR.

Ok now the real problem was find the right cards to search for with protean hulk. This was the hardest thing to do. I am quite happy how i fixed it know. And again it isnt as good as the original, but we are talking about extended not legacy(it takes also a not small amount of space from the deck :/) heres what i get: Dryad abor, Ornithotper, Saffi, Caller of the claw, Carrion Feeder. Ok maybe i could cut this but i am not sure about the ruling(could i respond to the first trigger of caller to increase the amount of creatures i get??) if so maybe cut the ornis, the dryads are still lands so they are still useful. Ok basicly sac your creatures to carrion sac saffi targeting caller, sac caller to carrion he flashes back you get a bunch of 2/2s and just kill opponent your turn. (of course you play breach in his turn, or in your eot if hes tapped out...)

Now i post a decklist, it isnt perfect, i just build it, i would love to make this deck better. I hope i can respond to the trigger then the deck becomes an real boost.

(old list look at the list in second post)

Creatures
4 Ornithopter
2 Carrion Feeder
2 Saffi Eriksdotter
2 Caller of the Claw
4 Protean Hulk

Spells
2 Pact of Negation
4 Through the Breach
4 Desperate Ritual
4 Serum Visions
4 Mystical Teachings
4 Chrome Mox
4 Summoner's Pact

Lands
4 Steam Vents
1 Blood Crypt
1 Mountain
2 Island
4 Dryad Arbor
4 Wooded Foothills
4 Polluted Delta

Desperate Ritual + Chrome mox is obvoisly to speed the deck up. But desperate Ritual is also arcane mean you can splice Through breach on it vs control this is quite amazing.

Tell me what you think, tell me the right ruling if you realy know it and i would be glad to find someone helping me increasing the decks strength, i think it has real potential.

KeySam · Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 522

Ok i just asked in judges4you for the trigger and they told me i can respond to it, then i just recognized i could use cunning wish over Mystical Teachings. And with more slots now for drawing/disruption the deck looks like this, its actually ways better now, still having problems if i draw 2 times the same creature i dont find anything like brainstorm, would be cool if someone had an idea about that.

Creatures
4 Protean Hulk
2 Carrion Feeder
2 Caller of the Claw
2 Saffi Eriksdotter

Spells
3 Pact of Negation
3 Through the Breach
4 Cunning Wish
4 Summoner's Pact
4 Chrome Mox
4 Serum Visions
4 Desperate Ritual
4 Sleight of Hand

Lands
1 Sacred Foundry
4 Steam Vents
4 Flooded Strand
4 Wooded Foothills
4 Dryad Arbor
2 Island
1 Stomping Ground

Sideboard
1 Sulfurous Blast
1 Pact of Negation
1 Through the Breach
1 Seething Song
1 Gigadrowse
1 Telling Time
1 Commandeer
1 Shadow of Doubt
1 Electrolyze
3 Trickbind
2 Rack and Ruin
1 Eladamri's Call

edit: i have still some problems with my mana base, i just dont draw mana fast enough i guess i should add some lands. And another problem is that i have to actually have to pay for the pacts so playing 2 will cause a gamelose, which isnt that hot Wink

. Noone want to say something about this, flame, or whatever every comment wellcome.

zero · Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Posts: 77

1st- dryad arbor is just a forest with summoning sickness
2nd- Rack and ruin isn't an extended card

Cosmo · Joined: 15 Oct 2005 Posts: 135

try searching 4 ornithopters and 3 pride of clouds. thats a lot of damage.

i heard about a version that runs carefuly study, cabal therapy and life/death. it can go off in 2º turn. first turn study into therapy and hulk. second play death on hulk and sac with therapy ftw

kby · Joined: 03 Oct 2006 Posts: 145

isn't getting it to your graveyard -> via discard or entomb

then casting; Footsteps of Goryo.

...if you want to add it that is... cost less mana

Canabiest · Joined: 15 Aug 2006 Posts: 1

Maybe you could search shadow sliver and three virulent slivers to kill your opponent with 12 poison counters.

kfcman · Joined: 16 Sep 2006 Posts: 665

Dragon2K2 · Joined: 21 Jun 2005 Posts: 8

Ginksigerg · Joined: 28 Apr 2007 Posts: 19

ur combo should deffinitly be the kiki-jikki, carion feeder and sky hussar.. i dunnno if that i any good so

Ginksigerg · Joined: 28 Apr 2007 Posts: 19

but also have saffi to bring him back... i was also thinking mybe u can fetch the project x combo

KeySam · Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 522

googa · Joined: 07 Apr 2007 Posts: 35

hey, so to be honest i dont have any better ideas, but here are my thoughts:
1. even if dryad arbor is part of ur combo, u draw it and it's esentially a dead card or at best, a land that cant tap the turn it comes into play.
2. as u noted, extended is not as fast as legacy(by far). you may want to concider using combo pieces that actually have other fuctions(see project X in standard. i refer to point one above on this too).
3. if you're gonna play summoner's pact, you want to win that turn. not to mention that waiting until your turn just gives ur opponents another window to screw u over.
4. Extended has an absolutely huge card pool to choose from when building your deck. Try searching through and finding some more consistant and more resistant combo pieces(i.e. there has to be something better than being forced to play with 4 dryad arbor, a card that isn't even playable in sealed deck). Honestly i don't have any suggestions as to what would work better, and i have to give u credit for coming up with this, but i'm positive there's something better out there. find it. (i'm leaning toward the possibility of there being some retarded way to actually get the kiki-jiki/sky husar combo into play this way. word has it there's a black card from invasion that's very similar to karmic guide).

good luck

KeySam · Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 522

ups double post sry

KeySam · Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 522

i know that dryad abor isnt that hot, but it doesnt realy hurt the deck playing for(i have a land with summon sickness, cause lots of my spells coast one if i have them on hand i usally play them turn 2). I know that i give the opponent time, but sky hussar/kiki would not do a lot in this deck cause i go off eot anyway(opponents eot of course) so i only would have endless creas eot (i would need to search for sharpshooter or thelike) and i mentioned the invasion creature before, not directly but i did:

Dragon2K2 · Joined: 21 Jun 2005 Posts: 8

projekt x combo coast 7 converted not 6. And if you say yea you have one of the cards on hand when you play 4 of each then just play projekt x.

Essense Warden + Body Double
Saffi + Crypt Champion

or without a sac outlet ready (cabel therapy or the like) you could get Body Double + Carrion Feeder first then go into the above.

I'm not saying it's the best combo to get but it would be possible.