Your belief system.

Hank333 · Joined: 23 Oct 2006 Posts: 123 Location: San Antoni

Well the forum has been pretty boring lately, I thought I would bring up a topic the everyone has an opinion on. God, religion, and politics.

I have no faith in our system. Politics in America, and worldwide really, is a total failure that will lead up to world war 3 sooner or later.
I have no faith in our religious systems. Catholicism is a joke. I believe the many people who are atheist are atheist because they see how narrow minded Christians and the likes can be and assume that if they are wrong, that there is no god. That is a trap by the devil, or whatever you call the dark side.
I have a firm faith in god. I know he is there. He isn't some great being in the sky, he is everything, and he is us we are him. He is love.
I know MTG players tend to be rather intelligent. I know intelligent people tend to put faith into science. I have little faith in science. While you can use the scientific method to determine the outcome of specific things, its limited by what us humans already know how to control, so thing we have no compression of are still very close to impossible to discover.

We humans are dumb; we need to admit that to ourselves, we are all falling into a trap. There is a small but powerful group of ultra-rich elitist leading us into a slave system called the new world order; we will be slaves to an economy, to money and the desire for worldly things.

You may not believe in god, but you know the world is screwed up.
There is a god, life is a series of lessons, and none of us know anything about the nature of the universe. Follow your heart.

*whew* done ranting... and let me know how many words I misspelled, I bet at least 20. Likely more

what is your belief system and why? How much faith do you have in your belief system?
I have no desire you change you, if you comment, attack the beef, not my crappy grammar.

Your right RichardDwade, i should run it through a spell check, thanks for the advice!
triple edit, should be spelling error frea! Razz

RichardDWade · Joined: 20 Mar 2006 Posts: 432

You should take your "firm faith in god" back to school and learn how to spell. Proper grammar would help too. No matter how good your points are, writing like this is just garbage. Posts like these never hold any water for me when the mountain man who posted it can't even get a grip on proper English let alone whatever the hell he is ranting about.

Edit: I just read it again. And now I'm dumber. Lets go for a third time..... And PLEASE OH PLEASE don't project yourself by saying "us humans are dumb" . First of all, I believe its "we" and second of all, I hope when the aliens come examine us, I am not placed in the same category as you.

iKe · Joined: 14 Dec 2005 Posts: 537 Location: New York

This topic is just going to cause flaming.... Rolling Eyes

the new world order thingy is all bullshit... most people already worship money... I'm sure some people might exclude themselves from this - but everyone wants to be rich. No matter how happy you think you are and even if you do believe money doesn't bring happiness, You still want plenty of it.

Quantumdemon · Joined: 06 May 2006 Posts: 52

I'm an agnostic.

Hence why I think the poll question isnt very fair. First thing I have a problem with is, what is god, allah, vishnu, elvis, money, porn? Everybody worships something but no one really understands what they're worshipping. In this world, especially more so now than ever, people CLAIM to be religious but are in fact, fakers. Not because they dont actually think they're religious, because they do, but because they dont know ************ about what they believe. For christ's sake(Pun intended) most people who claim to be religious cant even accurately describe what their religion is about. I dont have any problem with there being a "God", however I do have problems with people who claim to be his "homies", and somehow think they're better than other people because of this self proclamation. When it comes down to it...every stupid f****************** thinks they're right about what's "the right" religion, so I choose not to believe in any of them.

Fanboy · Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 399

you gotta be careful with these kinds of topics...like you when I was younger I would try to live out my Da Vinci Code moments via forum rant...short of you making a media coverage...people dont tend to listen...you gotta convince and audience to go moderate before channeling them to a side when it comes to politics and faith.

But I know you intent is to not get flaming (however this stands as a wet lightening rod at the moment)...so i'll play ball.

I for one am agnostic. I feel that there is not enough proof to know what the all mighty answer is. By this i mean to full extremes that we may not have ANY proof. Example: Anything we may know as fact may be illusion. As crazy as it is the whole it all may be a dream is not too far fetched. Considering we don't even know the origin of existence, potentially everything is a variable of unknown value since the equation of understanding its existence and true nature is missing parts to the formula that proves things without a doubt (a logic mirage is a good metaphor).

THIS IS THE KEY POINT HERE (intermission...no one likes long text):

Since nothing can be proven by this you could argue that doing anything in life is redundant as you have no evidence that doing anything is beneficial...however you take life's findings as a theroy to go buy. The lifestyle now imploys a learning method. Where as most faiths generate rules to follow and thus have life defined, you realize since you don't know anything (and anything coincidentally true is still technically unproven by previous logic...but still remains possibly true) you live life accepting that anything you here may or may not be true, but make decisions in trusting certain parts and keeping some in back of mind. So now we can accept that the air we breathe is real and not an illusion simply because it agrees with what info we've gathered...but we also willing to accpet that an outlandish idea that its a magic out of a donkeys ass that keeps us breathing when oxygen is around...we don't throw our life away in the confusion...so what benefit does that serve?

Well any religion can be torn down to a rediculous fairy tale (VERY easily...especially Christianity). But hell...thye may be true..you can't prove or disprove it thus it's a valid contender. So we make an estimate but avoid the bias off blind faith and follow that life style. But since we keep in mind that all we know may be a farse, if truth does rear its head, we do not cast it aside out of ignorance. THUS at your final moment you better your chances of guessing the right one..if there is one.

And thus we have the most logical and solid path to walk by as it's the only one that can never be challenged with "your wrong or right" as its stance is not to say it is or isn't, but to merely make claim that you don't know but your trying to find out.

So...yeah...im done. crazy religious people...

Fanboy · Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 399

wow and that was the short watered down version O.o...

TD · Joined: 19 Jul 2006 Posts: 98

There is no god, I'm afraid. God is simply an imaginary construct manufactured to console people who are incapable of facing the darkness of oblivion. Its hard for people to deal with the reality that the universe is simply a mechanical place and that death is the end.

In any event, given how callous this "God" fellow would have to be to allow people to drown their own children in bathtubs, go out and rape and murder people, ect. I don't see why you'd want to worship them even if they did exist, as its quite obvious any god would be at best deistic and most likely outright malicious or at the very least highly capricious.

Avata · Joined: 03 Dec 2006 Posts: 124

Mindblaze · Joined: 13 Jul 2006 Posts: 3

We're all just a bunch of monkeys...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a15KgyXBX24

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Russell_Nash · Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Posts: 694 Location: Burn Ward

Can I get an "I don’t care" option for the agnostics?

*im going to assume you mean God in the Christian sense of the word*

IF there is a monotheistic deity craving our attention and worship so much that it would give us such a prize as eternal bliss and happiness, don’t you think it would show up from time to time, or ever?

Im willing to accept that maybe there is a "God" thats looking over us and when I die will judge me. I cant see how my belief in such a being would play one way or the other in my judgment though. This whole if you don’t believe in Jesus/God you’ll burn in hell sentiment has really turned me off to all of Christianity. Why would a loving and caring god judge people on their believes rather then their actions? I don’t think it would.

As a side note: I firmly believe anyone else who tries to tell me otherwise is a vulture on society; as that they are looking to scam me out of something or are too meek and lazy to figure out what they truly believe themselves and just find it easier to agree with those around them. I like to think of myself as an moral person who lives a decent life, but I firmly believe organized religion as a whole is a plague on the human race.

What you need to do is realize that there is a incredibly good chance what when you die, nothing happens. If something happens, bonus. Until you can come to terms with that life and death can be pretty shitty.

Bozo · Joined: 09 Feb 2006 Posts: 84