Isochron extended deck

AKF · Joined: 17 Jan 2006 Posts: 65

consider adding way more counters, i've seen a lot of hatred towards this deck. Absorb is a good idea.

gd1 · Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 9

Okmar · Joined: 26 Feb 2005 Posts: 383

the list provided is horrible...why the stickey?

ishocrone · Joined: 16 Mar 2006 Posts: 34

swords to plow shares in there a balance and raise the alarm with lets say add proteus staff those are fun but good if u build it right i will look for my protues scepter deck i have one many games with it should be fun

jarrod · Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 51

Here is my build it has some legacy cards in it cos at my legacy most people play ext.
4 Coastal Tower
4 Adarkar Wastes
6 Island
6 Plains
4 Telling Time
3 Counterspell
3 Boomerang
2 Fire // Ice
4 Muddle the Mixture
3 Wrath of God
3 Orim's Chant
4 Isochron Scepter
3 Exalted Angel
3 Enlightened Tutor
4 Cunning Wish
4 Chrome Mox
SB: 1 Counterspell
SB: 1 Boomerang
SB: 1 Orim's Chant
SB: 1 Fire // Ice
SB: 3 Disenchant
SB: 1 Nourish
SB: 1 Humble
SB: 1 Swords to Plowshares
SB: 3 Quash
SB: 1 Lightning Bolt
SB: 1 Lightning Helix

feel free to give advice.

Unavailable · Joined: 18 Mar 2006 Posts: 7

I hope you're well aware that copy cards only copy the printed values of what they're copying. This way, your copied Scepter's ability (imprint) will trigger when Sculpting Steel's ability (copy) resolves, and you'll have to remove another instant card in your hand from the game to feed your new pet if you want it to be of any use.

Russell_Nash · Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Posts: 694 Location: Burn Ward

ill agree specter chant is kinda lame, its not my style at all. As to "any one can beat kia budde with this deck" a smart player would be playing with a 1 mana artifact kill card, shattering spree, oxidize, Overload(still legal? not sure) when ever they could. And i think we also need to put this into perspective, to get a 1 turn lock is not that easy u need in OPENING HAND: the stick, a mox, a boomerang, and another colored spell AND AND AND first play. anyone who would cinsider this a reliable wincondition hasnt taken a highschool level statistics class yet to know the math doesn’t add up in your favor.

BUT enough flaming thats just my opinion, here are some ideas :

cut last gasp, helix and termiate are nearly strictly better. If u wana kill more creatures pack more helixs and terminates less gasps

Win conditions? what is tehre aside form the 3 angels? dont u need more to finish them off?

Merc · Joined: 20 Feb 2005 Posts: 83

On topic: The decklist first posted is really lacking. It relies heavily on scepter and will get 2 for 1ed so often if it actaully draws the scepter, making what would seem like a god hand (mox, colored, scepter, imprint, land, x, x) hand bad.

Slighty Off topic: People who believe No stick relies on luck sacking the turn 1 lock are ridculous. The deck is first and foremost a solid control deck. In fact most of the newer lists (aka japaneese lists) that did well in their respective gps (aka japaneese gps) ran 1-2 mox showing they don't even care for the inconsistancy they get by having a card that allows them to turn 1 lock when they draw it too late in the game.

I play scepter, and I would like to believe I've played it longer then anyone who would like to argue with me (right after gp anaheim I built it) and even though the turn 1 lock is stupidly unfair if you get it, the deck is not based off it at all. To address the combo, the absolute best turn you can NORMALLY drop a scepter/chant is on turn 4, and its not because you can chant them, its because you leave counter mana open for their so called dominating cards (artifact removal) and are able to chant them with counter mana after on turn 5. This is subject to change againest counter decks, but thats a totally different story where you can end up dropping it turn 10.

Kaesh · Joined: 10 Nov 2004 Posts: 222

Off topic, but pretty important:
Aggro decks are much more difficult to play well than control decks. A control deck's working may be more complicated as such, but in a game situation, the control player has an extremely important strategical superiority of, well, not having to do a damn thing. Time works for him. The aggro player has to reveal himself and win as fast as possible, because else he's toast. The control player plays his answers after the aggro player plays his threats, so he has the edge in information too.

Shagrath · Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Posts: 202

Who says that players don´t need to have skill to play with scepter/chant don't understand anything about magic, it is very hard to play with scepter chant.
What's the big deal of playing with agro decks?
Drop bug, attack, pass........Drop bug, attack, pass......wow
omg agro decks require so much skill to play with them...just wake up for the real life and stop saying crap.

leetmagicman · Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 12

Although i am not a huge fan of the isochronchant deck, i think it could be good. like Herik said, u definitely need some basic lands in there. Painlands are good if ur mana screwed but if u get nothing but painlands u will eventually kill yourself. Definitely put fire/ice in there because it gives u the option to tap permanents if u need to. Or burn them if u need to. You might want to find another win condition just in case ur scepters get destroyed by some act of god. But other than that i think ur deck actually has a chance. And as for visara, dont listen to him. Hes just mad because this deck has probably kicked his ass a million times and hasnt figured out a way to beat it.

leetmagicman

Superdood · Joined: 16 Jan 2006 Posts: 310

That orims chant deck is cute and all, but a naturalize should finish it off, remember it says you can't PLAY spells, not that it counters them, so on your upkeep play a naturalize or something, then watch them cry or something similar.

ayame-chan · Joined: 01 Jan 2005 Posts: 64

i play an isochronchant, I've been able to get chant out ONCE on second turn. i like it but then EVERY deck i play is control based. I forget to attack so my games go longer than need be. I like nice people who remind me. just watch out for people (wildcard) who play boils. sigh leaves me with just 4 plains and 4 factories.

Shagrath · Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Posts: 202

Alandariel · Joined: 17 Jan 2006 Posts: 136

I play Scepter Chant in 1.x. I guess I'm a bad player, eh Visara? My rating definately shows it, eh? =|

Scepter Chant is a good deck, but it's by no means a broken deck. There are many ways to get around it.

And to whoever made this topic... I hate to say it but play Scepter Chant. There are like four cards worth putting on a stick. Chant, Boomerang, Counterspell, and Shrapnel Blast.

Well I was going somewhere with this but in the middle of writing it I played a game and forgot I was writing it so I started drinking JD and now I'm just gonna stop because it'll probably be dumb and I'll probably be rambling like I probably am right now.

At any rate, Visara... you really got gg'd there.