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Rock vs Gifts vs Fungus Fire! Fight for T2 Tier 1!


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Which is better? Match-Up and in the Meta.
The Rock
21%
 21%  [ 8 ]
Gifts
28%
 28%  [ 11 ]
Fungus Fire
50%
 50%  [ 19 ]
Total Votes : 38

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Adam



Joined: 31 Oct 2004
Posts: 23

PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rock is decent, but it cant deal with those decks very well.

My build of rock is pretty good, but UB naturally just houses it.
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Y2Jonline



Joined: 08 Sep 2004
Posts: 92

PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

XxInfernoxX wrote:
UB doenst house anything, UB is trash. besides, fungus fire owns all those decks.


Fungus Fire owns Rock AND Gifts you say? Sorry, but I just don't see it. It seems like a fine anti-aggro deck, but can it really beat a good build of either of these? Between the efficient removal and Cranial Extractions + discard effects, it seems to me that Fungus Fire would have a hard time dealing with what Rock or Gifts would throw at it. That being said, I haven't tested the matchup at all, it just doesn't seem like the deck would be all that dominant in a control mirror.
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Craze



Joined: 30 Jan 2005
Posts: 5676
Location: Indiana, U

PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lets look at the last trials...

Sept 27th
1st - BG Aggro
2nd - BG Aggro
3rd - UG Crap

Oct 3rd
1st - Fungus Fire
2nd - MBC
3rd - WW

Oct 4th
1st - GB Crap(Rock!?)
2nd - Gifts
3rd - Gifts

Oct 6th
1st - Fungus Fire
2nd - Good Form
3rd - GB Rock

Oct 8th
1st - Fungus Fire
2nd - Fungus Fire
3rd - RDW
4th - GB Rock

Dr. Phil I think you got a few things wrong...
teir list:
1st Fungus Fire
2nd GB Rock
3rd Gifts

I added a little feature to your poll as well...
next time try knowing SOMTHING before spouting out NOTHING.
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Bejeezus



Joined: 12 Dec 2004
Posts: 1796
Location: Right Here

PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Baryonyx wrote:
Funny, i dont see any of those deck in tier 1 for T2

Tier 1
UB Agrro
R/W control

I don't know where you got that from, but this is what I think of how things are shaping up:
Tier 1:
G/B Rock
Fungus Fire
Gifts
WWx
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ant900



Joined: 11 Oct 2004
Posts: 2525
Location: somewhere

PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you people seem to be forgetting something, this is magic league, in here anything can happen... heck i wouldnt be supprised if ninjas win a master (if it hasnt already)
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Adam



Joined: 31 Oct 2004
Posts: 23

PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Turn 1 Thopter, Turn 2 Ninja of the Deep Hours can do some shit.

But Rock beats Fungal Fires all day, as long as nightmare voids are involved.
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CloudRisen



Joined: 08 Sep 2004
Posts: 114

PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ant900 wrote:
you people seem to be forgetting something, this is magic league, in here anything can happen... heck i wouldnt be supprised if ninjas win a master (if it hasnt already)


UG ninjas got second in a masters a while back with stuff like sage owl.....
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Kaesh



Joined: 10 Nov 2004
Posts: 376

PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WWr and Fungus Fire are the tier 1 decks.
Fungus Fire beats WWr, WWr beats everything else.
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monkeywrench



Joined: 21 Jun 2005
Posts: 48

PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

as far as WWr being tier one goes i dont think anything could be further from the truth, everyone is expecting to play it and has designed decks accordingly and everyone who hasn't deserves to lose.
As for all the bagginf of fungus fire, i think the record speaks for itself so if its so crap why aren't you winning trials.
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eEnder



Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Posts: 25

PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fungus fire is the best pile ever¡ ty Quetzilla for a deck very fun and good.
it beats everything.

It have ivory mask about that piles of discard. I did beat in yesterday trial a gifts, a rock player and a monoblack(he now will be playing green for naturalice).

The only real problems are permission(doenst exist in thats league) and enduring(that is very incosistent).

have fun¡
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Nantuko



Joined: 31 Aug 2004
Posts: 76

PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Craze wrote:
lets look at the last trials...

Sept 27th
1st - BG Aggro
2nd - BG Aggro
3rd - UG Crap

Oct 3rd
1st - Fungus Fire
2nd - MBC
3rd - WW

Oct 4th
1st - GB Crap(Rock!?)
2nd - Gifts
3rd - Gifts

Oct 6th
1st - Fungus Fire
2nd - Good Form
3rd - GB Rock

Oct 8th
1st - Fungus Fire
2nd - Fungus Fire
3rd - RDW
4th - GB Rock

Dr. Phil I think you got a few things wrong...
teir list:
1st Fungus Fire
2nd GB Rock
3rd Gifts

I added a little feature to your poll as well...
next time try knowing SOMTHING before spouting out NOTHING.


First of all, you need to take into account that not all decks are present in the top slots. Just because they aren't dominating the field on Magic-League doesn't mean they aren't tier 1. Also, the poorly represented decks may very well be underplayed.

Second: anything goes in current standard. It's still too up-in-the-air. I guarantee I could compile a rogue build and ruin the so called 'established metagame'.

Third: I don't appreciate my heartbeat deck being labeled 'UG Crap', as I'm sure I could roll you all week long with it despite what you play. That and the fact that I'm pretty sure my con rating owns yours, and that you never place in trials.

In closing, I just want to say that there is no final word on whats tier 1 yet. We only know whats flooding the play field.
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Sandler



Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Posts: 183

PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol...enough with this retardness...gifts is the ebst deck in t2...its only weakness is mirror.Rock is bleh and fungous fire is a rndom pile....Gifts is the best...
here is how i rate it:

1-gifts
2-doesnt matter
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Sandler



Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Posts: 183

PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

P.S

Dr.Phil you are a dumbass
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Itachi



Joined: 08 Mar 2005
Posts: 136

PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dr. moo i will pm you my gifts list and me and you can work on it actaully everyone who has seen says its good its plenty cpapable of winning vs all addecks casue its not the bad block build everyone trys to improve on it won't work the deck my gifts has truble with is fungus fire and thatrs only cause some build run the angel now i am ready for that bullshit gifts is way better than the rock the rock will run out of stuff faster than my gifts deck
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Itachi



Joined: 08 Mar 2005
Posts: 136

PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

//NAME: UberGifts
1 Okina, Temple to the Grandf
1 Shizo, Death's Storehouse
2 Swamp
1 Minamo, School at Water's E
2 Island
1 Plains
2 Kodama of the North Tree
3 Forest
3 Watery Grave
4 Overgrown Tomb
4 Tendo Ice Bridge
1 Ink-Eyes, Servant of Oni
1 Meloku the Clouded Mirror
2 Kokusho, the Evening Star
1 Grave-Shell Scarab
4 Farseek
3 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Cranial Extraction
2 Recollect
4 Birds of Paradise
4 Sakura-Tribe Elder
2 Zombify
1 Vigor Mortis
3 Gifts Ungiven
1 Temple Garden
4 Putrefy
2 Kagemaro, First to Suffer
SB: 3 Creeping Mold
SB: 2 Circle of Protection: Red
SB: 3 Pithing Needle
SB: 2 Ivory Mask
SB: 1 Cranial Extraction
SB: 1 Kodama of the North Tree
SB: 3 Wrath of God
this deck is terrible don't even comment on it
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