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Naylyn
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 Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:10 pm Post subject: Effects that target "each creature" |
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| How do spells that target each creature interact with creatures that can't be the target of spells or abilities. eg can pyroclasm kill silhana ledge-walker |
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ynnus
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| Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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spells that target creatures can't target ledgewalker so it fizzles or they are forced to target another creature that's on the field.
pyroclasm doesn't target anything so it kills ledgewalker. |
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Thorns
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| Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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| There is not one spell in MTG that targets all creatures. They are either global effects (WoG, Plague Wind, Pyroclasm) or have multiple targets (Seeds of Strength, Swelter). In the case of Seeds of Strength, if one of its targets becomes an invalid target, the spell will resolve as normal due to its wording, but if one of Swelter's target becomes illegal, it would fizzle. This is the same for creatures with protection from a given color. Ex: A Black Knight is in play and Wrath of God is played, the Knight dies because it isn't targeted. |
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ck3gds
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| Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 5:07 am Post subject: |
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There are spells that can "target each creature" - Radiate is one.
Having said that, I agree with everything else Thorns mentioned. |
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Thorns
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| Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 8:30 am Post subject: |
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| ck3gds wrote: | There are spells that can "target each creature" - Radiate is one.
Having said that, I agree with everything else Thorns mentioned. |
Radiate will only target each creature if there are as many creatures or less in play than the spell's effect can handle. |
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ant900
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| Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Thorns wrote: | | There is not one spell in MTG that targets all creatures. They are either global effects (WoG, Plague Wind, Pyroclasm) or have multiple targets (Seeds of Strength, Swelter). In the case of Seeds of Strength, if one of its targets becomes an invalid target, the spell will resolve as normal due to its wording, but if one of Swelter's target becomes illegal, it would fizzle. This is the same for creatures with protection from a given color. Ex: A Black Knight is in play and Wrath of God is played, the Knight dies because it isn't targeted. |
a spell or ability resolves as long as 1 target is still legal, I.E. swelter will still resolve as long as 1 creature that it targets is still in play |
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Naylyn
Joined: 25 Jun 2006
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| Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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| This question came about after I trigered that tibor and lumia's ability (whenever you play a red spell tibor and lumia does 1 damage to each creature without flying). I was told that such and effect targets each creature seperately and therefore it could not kill my friends silhana ledgewalker. Is this right? |
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djww19
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| Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 8:39 am Post subject: |
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No, it's a global effect. Like a mini-pyroclasm. Ledgewalker bites the dust.  |
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Naylyn
Joined: 25 Jun 2006
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| Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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| ok thanks, i like being right XD |
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Goofy
Joined: 04 Aug 2005
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| Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:09 am Post subject: |
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| If a card means target the card says target. Choose and each do not a target make. |
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