Which is better, Dark Confidant or Psychatog?

therooster · Joined: 09 Oct 2005 Posts: 27

Ya Meddling Mage is another solid hitter, as well as Goblin Welder.

kevinconvery · Joined: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 30

I have to agree:

Bob > Tog

Bob can be used in far more situations.

Plus, there's plenty of ways to thwart Tog. Sudden Shock, anyone?

Paellin · Joined: 11 Jun 2006 Posts: 149

pfft, obviously squire is better...

1) it chumps confident.
2) it chumps Tog.
3) it chumps mongrel. (another good card that im surprised nobody's brought up)
4) it chumps ichorid.
5) its vanilla, which gives you major style points for playing a vanilla 1/2 for 2.
6) in conclusion, the only viable win conditions are tendrils and brain freeze.

DRINKALCOHOL · Joined: 28 Mar 2006 Posts: 268 Location: New Gunsqu

I agree, island is broken

Russell_Nash · Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Posts: 694 Location: Burn Ward

Spyx · Joined: 31 Oct 2004 Posts: 680

Shivan1 · Joined: 14 Oct 2006 Posts: 36

Confidant can win games by *drawing* you into cards... I don't see how that is any different than attacking in for damage in one turn. Card advantage wins games, regardless of format. Bob > Tog.

edit: the comparison is still stupid, but bob is a more powerful single card than tog. Tog needs a whole deck built around him as a win condition, while bob can stand alone in almost any deck and help that deck WIN WIN WIN.

Kev · Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 55

I think Tog is stronger, as it got cards banned and restricted (GUSH!) Confidant is just a personal howling mine. dv8r gets togs point wrong
it turns a control deck into a control deck with a combo kill.

Onkel420 · Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 150

Hank333 · Joined: 23 Oct 2006 Posts: 123 Location: San Antoni

Its not a good compairision. They do completely diffrent things. Its not like compairing Dismiss vs counterspell or something. They are very diffrent cards for very diffrent decks.

You can't throw in Tog into you aggro deck and you don't throw bob into you BU control.

One good point though is you never need to kill your own tog when you are at 1 life...

TugaChampion · Joined: 26 Jan 2006 Posts: 222

NahHolmes · Joined: 13 Jan 2005 Posts: 561

Russell_Nash · Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Posts: 694 Location: Burn Ward

You people are freaking ridiculous. Bob requires more building then Tog, in the sense that you don’t wana play a control deck with him or a deck that has high casting cost spells. Tog is so freaking good that if your playing UB and hes legal theres NO REASON why you shouldn’t play him. He fits into standard UB control and even splashing B in madness like in PT LA which got 2nd place.

More to the point, I don’t really see the connection of how much you need to build a deck around a card as a negative in its worth. Is mind's desire a terrible card cause you have to devote a whole deck to running it? In fact I think it’s the whole opposite, the better a card is the more you WOULD devote your deck to running it more effetely.

For all you people that say tog sucks because of Sudden shock, thats only a half truth. Anything that can kill a Tog can kill a Bob, its just bob has never been so good as to when people see sudden shock they think "yes, this will kill bob easy" and thats because bob has never been a serious threat.

The whole creation of sudden shock itself speaks volumes as to the raw power of Tog, that they had to create a card that basically unconditionally kills it in every situation to get it out of extended.

Spyx: meddling mage doesn’t always prevent a deck from wining, if a deck has to play a single card to win, they tend to take meddling mage in mind and put hate on him. Meddling mages is by far better then Bob and is much more comparable then Tog. Tog says I win, Mage says you dont win/not yet, Bob says im gaining card advantage at the cost of life. Those are 3 whole different elements, I just think the I WIN is a little more important.

Eldariel · Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 124

Russell_Nash · Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Posts: 694 Location: Burn Ward

Eldariel: no shit tog doesn’t have an impact on current standard, hes not legal. If you wana talk standard tog you have to talk about the standard HE WAS IN! and he dominated.

Extened, Tog dominated up until R&D felt like flipping extended on its head with the introduction of split second. If you would also notice in included this clause in my statment you qouted.

Vintage and Legacy: again, no one cares about type 1 and 1.5.

and as for the 5th constructed format you mention: I guess well just wait till it gets created before you can talk about how good the cards in it are.