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Squirrel88
Joined: 02 Nov 2006
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 Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:38 am Post subject: Tooth and Nail? |
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| Since the season is on its way, i wanted to actually go to a few torneys , and i was wondering if tooth and nail could be a viable deck. i played it a lot when it was in standard and i still feel its a good deck. that and since i am poor i cant make ne of the popular decks. but ne suggestions a list perhaps even, i will post one later. thanx. |
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kfcman
Joined: 16 Sep 2006
Posts: 665
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| Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:12 am Post subject: Re: Tooth and Nail? |
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| Squirrel88 wrote: | | Since the season is on its way, i wanted to actually go to a few torneys , and i was wondering if tooth and nail could be a viable deck. i played it a lot when it was in standard and i still feel its a good deck. that and since i am poor i cant make ne of the popular decks. but ne suggestions a list perhaps even, i will post one later. thanx. |
bestard top 8'ed the November Extended master with TnN
http://www.magic-league.com/deck/27091/tooth_and_nail.html#Tooth%20and%20Nail31716 |
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sonicqaz
Joined: 02 May 2006
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| Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:19 am Post subject: |
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I think Tooth and Nail would work better in the Eight-Post deck that was posted on magicthegathering.com
If you don't know what that is, it is Cloudpost and Vesuva (to copy Cloudpost). Maybe i'll put that together. |
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Russell_Nash
Joined: 05 Jan 2006
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Location: Burn Ward
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| Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:11 am Post subject: |
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| sonicqaz wrote: | | I think Tooth and Nail would work better in the Eight-Post deck that was posted on magicthegathering.com |
I think your better off just running traditional tron, the 8post trick is cute but I don’t think its any better then just running the tron. With tron theres more copies to just randomly draw into and they don’t come into play taped so you aren't always a turn behind waiting for your posts to untap.
Also in the article they dont really talk about situations when you get forest vesuva living wish. When you have to copy a turn 2 forest and have to wait till 3rd turn to cast your 2mana spell only to get YET ANOTHER land that comes into play tapped that only produces 1 mana(since that vesuva is a forest not a locus).
Its ture you can generate a lot more mana with 8-post, but its rarely needed (although splashing for red for ridiculous demonfires is tempting.) I think you’ll be best off just running traditional tron with the standard ext inclusions with maybe a splash into another color. Probably blue for light counters/ stiffles /recursion mindslaver with Academy Ruins for storm match ups or a secondary lockups. Or white for a little light gain for boros match up. |
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sonicqaz
Joined: 02 May 2006
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| Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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Well, some of what you say is true, but not all of it. If you drop a Cloudpost, and then a Vesuva tapped, you still get two mana for the original cloudpost that turn.
I find that you get to the amount of mana you need with 8post faster and more consistently than tron. Destroying a piece of the tron sets you back a lot, much more so than destroying one of the 8post lands.
At the least it's worth testing the 8post TnN. Even if it is worse, it's not by much. |
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