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B/W Control - 2nd place FNM


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Do you think that this deck is good?
Yes, leave it the way it is
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It's pretty good, but with a little tweaking it will be good.
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Average, it needs a lot of tweaking
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It's absolute crap, even with tweaking, you'll get pwned. Burn the deck.
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Total Votes : 6

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xTc



Joined: 06 Aug 2005
Posts: 77

PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

this deck doesnt need early discard, but I'd take away snow permanents and replace coldsteel hearts by something like condemns, and replacing snow lands for flagstones + basic, you need another wrath, and maybe -1 vampire + 1 akroma
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mandanglelow



Joined: 15 Nov 2005
Posts: 133

PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Totem is amazing with Wrath of God, it perfect for this deck. I would run one more Totem and another signet cause 3rd turn wrath, persecute, or Fetters (should add those too) would be damaging. I also run the tool box version of this deck using dimir house guard to transmute for whatever i need. i'll just post my deck list and you can take any ideas you may wish to take.

Lands: 22
4x godless shrine
4x caves of kolois
3x BW Karoo (basilica)
3x flagstones
2x ghost quater
3x swamp
2x plains
1x orzhava, church

Creatures: 7
3x Dimir House Guard
2x AOD
2x Akroma

Spells: 31
4x Arena
4x signets
3x totem
2x persecute
4x wrath
1x ivory mask
1x nightmare void
4x mortify
2x Knell
3x castigate
3x faith's fetters

SB: 15 (work in progress)
3x disenchant (pesky enchants or artifacts)
3x COP red (boros wins)
2x crypt (anti GY)
1x persecute (control)
2x serrated arrows (aggro)
3x netherborn phalanx (fucking mono white tron)
1x ivory mask (combo/burn)

Good Luck with it...

PEACE!
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kikimikejiki



Joined: 26 Dec 2004
Posts: 649

PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dude i saw fnm in the title and didnt read b4 i even made the post i made an educated guess o yea how does pahalanx help u vs mono w t?

Last edited by kikimikejiki on Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:09 pm; edited 1 time in total
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mandanglelow



Joined: 15 Nov 2005
Posts: 133

PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Storm Herd for X...

Phalanx... your dead...

its an iffy card, but my shop that i play at i see that card to much and its the only way i could shut it down
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Taoofss



Joined: 22 Dec 2004
Posts: 321

PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dont play rats take them all out, it doesnt fit into the theme of your deck. 4 arenas is a must, you dont draw arena b/w control dies out very fast. 2 persecutes are enough -1 persecute +1 wraith orzhov church of deals is not a good card, ghost quarters is a better land card and does more. or any lands, just not church of deals. Against mono white tron, you can try worship, i guess a blinking crreature, or something that is wraith proof. hmmm, facotry and worship should be fine white doesnt have any direct removal. you can than mill them? i dunno.
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Spyx



Joined: 31 Oct 2004
Posts: 1188

PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you don't have 4 wog but then you better start trading for that fourth one, you absolutely need to play the full set.
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DarkSabre



Joined: 31 Aug 2004
Posts: 10

PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As funny as it sounds, try adding red for life gain. At my FNMs, i always get 1st-3rd with this deck.

Lands (23)
4xGodless shrines
4XBlood Crypt
3xSacred Foundry
4XFlagstone of Tolkair
2XSulforous Springs
2xOrzhoz Basilica
2XBoros Garisons
2XUrza's Factoryhava church of deals(or Church of deals, it has synergy with deck)

Spells (30)
3XOrzhov Signet
3XCastigate
2XPersecute
4XWrath of God
3XHide/Seek (These are soo good)
4XLightning Helix
3XFaith's Fetter
2XSearing Meditation
4XPhyrexian Arena
2XMoonlight Bargain(this card is iffy but I need some extra Draw)

Creatures (7)
4XFiremane Angel
3XAngel of Despair

Sideboard
2XMoratorium Stone (more pox hate)
1XHide/Seek (Amazing vs dragonstorm, get a dragon!)
1XFaith's Fetter
1XCastigate
1XPersecute
4XCondemn(vs magnivore decks, side these in instead of wrath)
3XSacred Ground
2XEvangelize(vs control decks, Solar pox)
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xTc



Joined: 06 Aug 2005
Posts: 77

PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

not when they play MD mortify.
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R3wind



Joined: 24 Jul 2006
Posts: 1386

PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ElvishGod wrote:
Needs Temporal Isolation. Temporal Isolation is f*cking amazing. Even stops akroma, AND prevents them from playing another. its just amazing removal. better than condemn, by far


I really think that you are right about that. It is maindeck goodness all the way. I even play a version of BDW with it in the main. It makes the mirror match a lot better i nthe first game.
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kikimikejiki



Joined: 26 Dec 2004
Posts: 649

PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you do realise pacism is infi better right?
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Eldar



Joined: 27 Nov 2006
Posts: 435
Location: Rochester

PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the type of deck people try to make for B/W. First off temp isolation is > pacifism any day of the week seeing as u can make a blocker for shadow yourself if you need to say against boros guys like priest. Second off you need akroma honestly even 1-2 copies makes this deck better. Third, cut the snow add arena and flagstones and put mesa in the deck. Mesa is a house and despite krosan grip and fetters it wins games for you and stalls you out against agro if you can't find a wrath. That's all I really notice. I like the castigates because it gives dragonstorm a hard time early on and this deck is gonna have problems with it unless it can disrupt it turn 2-3 castigate and 4-5 persecute red.
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