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mana_r8der



Joined: 20 Nov 2006
Posts: 16

PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 10:53 am    Post subject: Magic Puzzle Reply with quote

SOLUTION TO MAGIC PUZZLE

Puzzle is found at
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=mtgcom/feature/375



SOLUTION:


In the following order...

1. Sacrifice Goblin Skycutter to kill opponent's Noble Sprite
2. Tap Prodigal Sorcerer to kill Unyaro Bee
3. Attach Griffin Guide to Tolarian Sentinel making it a 4/6
4. Pitch Fool's Demise for Snapback and target one of the
Penumbra Spider
5. Morph Vesuvan Shapeshifter and copy the now 4/6 Tolarian
Sentinel
6. Attack with both 4/6 in the air

Other suggestions? Is step 5 illegal? Comments are welcome.
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scurvy



Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Posts: 119

PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll be the one who says it:

1. Griffin Guide only grants +2/+2, making Tolarian Sentinel 3/5.
2. Copying Tolarian Sentinel with Vesuvan Shapeshifter doesn't grant the Griffin Guide bonus to the Shapeshifter; you'd get a 3/5 Sentinel and a 1/3 Shapeshifter.

It won't be that easy.
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mana_r8der



Joined: 20 Nov 2006
Posts: 16

PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 11:31 am    Post subject: possible flaw? Reply with quote

Somebody tell me where the MOUTAINS are. Possible flaw in the puzzle?
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scurvy



Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Posts: 119

PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You definitely will not need mountains to solve the puzzle.
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Cypher-



Joined: 14 Feb 2006
Posts: 27
Location: Detroit

PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The puzzle isn't that difficult. I solved it in about 10 minutes.

Here's the answer.
1. Play Griffin Guide on Kavu
2. Play Fool's Demise on Goblin Skycutter
3. Sac Goblin to deal 2 to Kavu and Fool's Demise returns to hand and Goblin returns to play.
4. Play Fool's Demise on Kavu
5. Use Tolarian Sentinel to return Griffin Guide to your hand, and then Kavu dies, killing a Spider and then returns to play and deal 2 to itself then kill the spider token and now you have a 4/4 flying Griffin.
6. Sac Skycutter to kill Sprite Noble
7. Ping Bees with Sorcerer.
8. Unmorph Vesuvan targeting the 4/4 Griffin and play Snapback on the other Spider pitching Demise.
9. Attack for 4 in the air.

Ta Da!
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mana_r8der



Joined: 20 Nov 2006
Posts: 16

PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 12:13 pm    Post subject: Beauty Reply with quote

I like ^_^

But tell how exactly are you going to play Fool's Demise 2x with 9 mana?
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Demented42



Joined: 27 Apr 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That solution doesn't work either. You used about 10 mana too much.
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aesghalde



Joined: 10 Nov 2004
Posts: 1

PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Demented42 wrote:
That solution doesn't work either. You used about 10 mana too much.


Read Gauntlet of Power. It works on your plains too.
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Demented42



Joined: 27 Apr 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cypher- wrote:

5. Use Tolarian Sentinel to return Griffin Guide to your hand, and then Kavu dies, killing a Spider and then returns to play and deal 2 to itself then kill the spider token and now you have a 4/4 flying Griffin.


Where exactly do you get the 4/4 Griffin from, with Griffin Guide in your hand when the Kavu hit the graveyard?
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Guillaume



Joined: 27 Nov 2006
Posts: 4

PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that tokens can't be the clue...

summoning sickness makes him unable to attack
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Guillaume



Joined: 27 Nov 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wrong soluce too !!!

first, two gauntlet of power let you have 15 W manas and 4 U manas

there's 4 blockers faerie, 2 penumbra's and a bee

use tolarian guy discard magnus and return aspect of mongoose to your hand (U)

put fools demise on... vesuvan (UWWWW)

unmorph vesuvan into a goblin... (UW)
sac it on the faerie
sting the bee with prodigal

bee and faerie are dead

you have 1U and 10W manas left

fools demise returns into your hand and returns vesuvan to play... copy kavu... 2 damage to the real kavu. he deals 4 damage to 1 penumbra ... a black token penumbra enters play.

discard fools demise with the snapback to return the vesuvan (kavu) to your hand kill the token with it's 4 damages... to kill the token

still is 1 spider

play morph cost to enter vesuvan in play... unmorph it
copy kavu ( morph rules are skipping stack so i think it works ) 2 damages to himself... deals 4 damages to the 2nd penumbra... and there's still a token to block


Last edited by Guillaume on Mon Nov 27, 2006 1:13 pm; edited 1 time in total
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aznjdude2006



Joined: 26 Jan 2006
Posts: 70

PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cypher- wrote:
The puzzle isn't that difficult. I solved it in about 10 minutes.

3. Sac Goblin to deal 2 to Kavu and Fool's Demise returns to hand and Goblin returns to play.



pretty hard to do especially since the gobbo only deals to damage to those with flying.
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Lord_tiamat



Joined: 13 Aug 2005
Posts: 76

PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you have to enchant the gobo the 2nd time when you target the spirit nobel but the griffen token is still summon sick so it couldnt attack.
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mana_r8der



Joined: 20 Nov 2006
Posts: 16

PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 1:13 pm    Post subject: rough draft Reply with quote

if u cast fool's demise twice on sky cutter
meaning sky cutter will deal total of 6 damage

now if shapeshifter copies cutter and then save the shapeshifter
while ability on the stack with Sentinel thats another 4 damage

but at this point you have spent > 15 mana more that youre allotted for
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CrippleFight



Joined: 08 Aug 2006
Posts: 65

PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guillaume wrote:

use tolarian guy discard magnus and return aspect of mongoose to your hand (U)



the aspect isn't yours so you cant return it.
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