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jmanh2ko



Joined: 02 Jul 2006
Posts: 53

PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 3:42 pm    Post subject: First Turn Kills Reply with quote

i was just wondering about various first turn kills people have seen or know of. any first turn kill combo would be great and is very appreciated!
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Thorns



Joined: 16 Aug 2006
Posts: 863
Location: Rath

PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's always the good old Dragon combo. Mine goes like this:
1. Swamp (or dual land of the appropriate color)
2. Tap Swamp, Dark Ritiual
3. Entomb for Worldgorger Dragon
4. Animate Dead or Dance of the Dead targeting the Dragon
5. Tap Swamp whenever it reappears
6. Repeat step 5 as many times as wanted
7. Use [infinite] mana to cast an arbitraly large Drain Life or any similar win condition (Maga, Spirit Drain, etc...)

Or you can do:
1. Mountain, Black Lotus
2. Pop Lotus, cast Kark's Thumb
3. Tap Mountain, cast Mana Clash
This isn't a guaranteed win though...
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metzel_usa



Joined: 01 Jan 2006
Posts: 124

PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

or rite of flame rite of flame seething song seething song mountain seething song dragonstorm for 4 hellkites and a hunted dragon
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Bweebwee



Joined: 08 Dec 2005
Posts: 64

PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

City of traitors
Lotus petal
Sac petal, seething song
Sneak attack or through the breach
Put serra avatar into play
Swing for 20.
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coolcreep



Joined: 18 Feb 2006
Posts: 588

PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

4x black lotus, pop em all,play mountain, play furnace of wrath followed by searing wind (conversely, you could get 13 red mana, play searing wind and then play hidetwhatshisface's second rite)

play black lotus, a forest, and a green mox. play channel with the mox and forest, pop the lotus for 3x red, pay 18 life, you have 21 mana, play demonfire or some other (x)(R) burn spell.

you have an at least 209 card deck, you play black lotus, an island, a blue mox, a black mox, tap the black mox for dark ritual, pay that as colourless for battle of wits which you tap the blue mox and the island for, then sac lotus for time walk. technically not a first turn win, but you still win before your opponent gets to play.

You have black lotus, a white mox, a plains, a red mox, an enduring renewal, a wild cantor, and a grapeshot. you play the lotus, sac it for white, play your red mox, play your 2 white sources, pay all but your red mox to play enduring renewal and wild cantor. sac wild cantor over and over again, each time playing him again with the mana you got from saccing (he keeps going back to your hand thx to enduring renewal) then finally you use your red mox and the mana you got from the last sac to play grapeshot for like 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000 damage.

play 3 black lotus, sac for 9 red. play furnace of wrath followed by empty the warrens, getting 10 1/1 tokens. then play surge of zeal and swing in for 20. you can also replace furnace of wrath with another black lotus, start with 3 random blue cantrips, add a blue mox for another blue cantrip(this means a LOT of storm) and proceed that way, getting 20 tokens that do 1 dmg instead of 10 tokens that do 2 dmg)


There are plenty more, assuming you are allowed to have more than 1 black lotus.
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kfcman



Joined: 16 Sep 2006
Posts: 733

PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

black lotus
break lotus for BBB
dark ritual
play mountain
raging goblin
BBBBB floating
hatred
pay 19
attack for 20
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Apocalypser



Joined: 05 Jun 2005
Posts: 62

PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's always the classic one.
Black Lotus + Mountain + Channel for 19 + X Spell damage for 20.
T2 Dragonstorm can win on the 1st turn too.
Rite+Rite+Rite+Rite Or Seething Song+Dragonstorm.

There's lots of lots of lots of decks that have possible turn 1 wins.
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KeySam



Joined: 14 Oct 2005
Posts: 649

PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

one of the coolest first turn kills i had was. 2 Moxes 1 soul ring, Tolarian Academy, frantic Search, Discard tendrils of agony and some land, tap the black mox cast dar ritual tap Tap tolarian cast Minddesire for 6 get a bunch of cards + Tendrils.

I played some time ago in rl vs someone who started like this(mentioned before)
Mox Jet Mox Ruby Black Lotus Sneak Attack Serra Avatar GG. I was stunned Razz first game and dont even get a turn.

I will know construct a funny first turn kill: City of brass, Fastbond, Mishras Workshop, Bazaar of Bagdad, Zuran Orb, Crucible of worlds, Mill your deck down Until you get Petrefied Field, Get some Lands back to hand, Draw some cards until you get demon fire, Discard all cards but demonfire Cast Demonfire Smile lol would be glad to see someone having endless everything first turn Razz
Of course you dont need The Petrefied Field you can just mill your deck down till you get yawgomoth will and Recoup in grave then cast will to finish off, but dont forget to get the right mana Smile
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CrippleFight



Joined: 08 Aug 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mountain, raging gobo, blazing shoal pitch myojin, blazing shoal pitch myojin, swing
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st4x



Joined: 31 Aug 2004
Posts: 358

PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thorns wrote:
There's always the good old Dragon combo. Mine goes like this:
1. Swamp (or dual land of the appropriate color)
2. Tap Swamp, Dark Ritiual
3. Entomb for Worldgorger Dragon
4. Animate Dead or Dance of the Dead targeting the Dragon
5. Tap Swamp whenever it reappears
6. Repeat step 5 as many times as wanted
7. Use [infinite] mana to cast an arbitraly large Drain Life or any similar win condition (Maga, Spirit Drain, etc...)


that doesnt work u need another creature in your graveyard because u cant cast sorceries inbetween worldgorger triggers
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KeySam



Joined: 14 Oct 2005
Posts: 649

PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CrippleFight wrote:
mountain, raging gobo, blazing shoal pitch myojin, blazing shoal pitch myojin, swing


After second blazing respond Shining Shoal pitch Autothon Wurm, Shining Shoal pitch Autothon Wurm Wink Yea pwnd Wink


Last edited by KeySam on Fri Nov 24, 2006 7:03 pm; edited 2 times in total
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coolcreep



Joined: 18 Feb 2006
Posts: 588

PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

play black lotus, white mox, mountain, and seething song. you get 7 mana total, 6 red, 1 white. you play stuffy doll, enchant it with guilty concience, and play surge of zeal on it. BAM! BAM! crazy dmg loop=gg.
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coolcreep



Joined: 18 Feb 2006
Posts: 588

PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

st4x wrote:
Thorns wrote:
There's always the good old Dragon combo. Mine goes like this:
1. Swamp (or dual land of the appropriate color)
2. Tap Swamp, Dark Ritiual
3. Entomb for Worldgorger Dragon
4. Animate Dead or Dance of the Dead targeting the Dragon
5. Tap Swamp whenever it reappears
6. Repeat step 5 as many times as wanted
7. Use [infinite] mana to cast an arbitraly large Drain Life or any similar win condition (Maga, Spirit Drain, etc...)


that doesnt work u need another creature in your graveyard because u cant cast sorceries inbetween worldgorger triggers



then make the swamp a dual B/R land, and play an instant speed (X)(R) burn spell.
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carlaks



Joined: 27 Nov 2004
Posts: 8

PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

black lotus, mox sapphire, island, dream halls, pitch a card for time spiral, draw 7, pitch a card for mind over matter, pitch a card for another time spiral, draw another 7, play lotus petal, cast mana vault, pitch a card for meditation, draw 4, discard cards for mana with mind over matter and mana vault, play a huge stroke for the win
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Bushviper



Joined: 07 Aug 2006
Posts: 281

PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. Mountain
2. Lotus
3. Sac Lotus for BBB
4. Dark Ritual (Now BBBBB)
5. Dark Ritual (Now BBBBBBB)
6. Phage
7. Fever Charm
8. Swing
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