UGB for new T2, top deck???

buda · Joined: 18 Jun 2005 Posts: 49

am curently testing this deck!

lands (21)
6 forest
3 swamps
1 island
3 watery grave
4 breeding pool
4 overgrwon tomb

creatures ( 28 )
3 llanowar elves
3 elves of deep shadow
3 call of the herd
4 bird of paradise
4 ohran viper
4 hypnotic specter
4 shadowmage infiltrator
2 Plagued Sliver

spells(12)
4 remand
4 mana leaks or rune snag
4 putrefy

SB:
3 last gasp
4 spell snare
3 carven caryatid
3 psionic blast
2 sudden death

what you peploe think???

RichardDWade · Joined: 20 Mar 2006 Posts: 438

How do you win?

buda · Joined: 18 Jun 2005 Posts: 49

Card advantage! shadowmage, ohran vper, hypnotic and Plagued sliver as the fattie. Call of the herd is a semi fattie, 3/3. But magic is about card advantage.

kfcman · Joined: 16 Sep 2006 Posts: 726

buda · Joined: 18 Jun 2005 Posts: 49

lol, if i face a sliver deck it will be very fun droping both plagued sliver

ShadowS · Joined: 03 Mar 2006 Posts: 157

sketchy for mana as always.. but thats the nature of BUG aggro.

Personally I think you got too many 1 drops, kick some llanlower elves out. Other than that, I like it. Although I'd rather see either darkblast or one that kills the green/white creature in SB. Perhaps a combination.

buda · Joined: 18 Jun 2005 Posts: 49

10 firstdrop mana producer ensures that you always will play a 2nd turn 3 mana spell! and the SB need a lot of work, may have to wait unti a metagme start forming

swfett · Joined: 02 Sep 2005 Posts: 27

play SUDDEN SPOILING! And more Sudden Death's.

TybudX · Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 57

I'd cut the Birds (no point with no pointies) and the Slivers for one more of each Elf, another Call, and move the Psionic Blasts into the maindeck. They give you reach, for when your game starts to stall out.

You might even try playing with Dimir Cutpurse instead of Vipers, but I haven't played with Vipers outside of limited yet, so I can't really say which is better suited to the deck. My money goes to the Cutpurses, though, just for the two power.

Oh, and until I actually see a dedicated sliver deck that looks even half assed decent, I wouldn't bother playing Plague maindecked, no matter how big it is.

Aside from that, deck looks really good. /sigh... I wish I had weekly tournies in my town still. No new/modified decks for me ; ;.

Evil or Very Mad

Spyx · Joined: 31 Oct 2004 Posts: 1031

the reason to play plague sliver isn't against sliver decks. it's because it's a 5/5 for 4...
and don't cut birds it's your best acceleration. i'd try to fit moldervine cloack in there to boost your guys.

Ith- · Joined: 18 Sep 2006 Posts: 77 Location: Cloud 9

-4 Mana Leak
+2 Plague Sliver
+2 Mystic Snake

Dr_Moo · Joined: 26 Nov 2004 Posts: 1013

10 accelerants are too many. Do the math. With 8, you have a 56/60 shot of having one in your opener. On the draw, it's even closer to a lock. Run 4 Birds and 4 Deep Shadow and get Llanowar out. I you need more answers to permanents.

I would start with this shell:
4 Birds
4 Deep Shadow
4 Hyppie
4 Finkel
1 Viper
4 Mana Leak
4 Last Gasp
4 Putrefy

The numbers on the 3-drops are adjustable. I think Viper is by far the weakest, and I don't think you need 12. I would definitely add Deathmark to the sideboard.

The big weakness I see in this deck is that your entire strategy is based around a turn 1 accelerant into a turn 2 3-drop to produce card advantage. Meanwhile, anyone anywhere can play Dark Confidant to gain the same advantage without twisting the entire deck (as much). I'm not saying that this can't be good, but it just doesn't seem like it's worth the trouble of building your whole deck around a concept when Bob gets you the same thing without needing the attack phase.

TybudX · Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 57

I understand that Plague is in there because it's a really big guy, what I'm saying is that it doesn't further your strategy in any way, at least not like another Call would. Call = 2 creatures, one card. Extra creature = card advantage.

Also, Birds... no. Yes, they are good for mana, and good for accelleration. No, they are not good at anything after the second turn. Drop them. And don't bother bringing up that whole 'chump blocking flyers' defense. You'll be drawing cards out the wazoo, just counter or kill anything you can't contain, and when that fails...

... Psionic Blast for the win. Nice finisher at instant speed that is easily protected and doesn't need to sit around for a whole turn with a huge target on it's head, ala Plague Sliver.

If you do have to go with Plague Sliver, for the love of dogs, play three of them. I don't care how many cards this deck draws, two of anything isn't going to be seen with enough consistency to be a statistic. The whole point of a big finisher in an aggro control deck is to get the game over ASAP, and waiting around for eight turns trying to force combat damage through in hopes of drawing your finisher just sucks. ; ;

Evil or Very Mad

edit - two posts while trying to sit down and reply... so here goes...

4 Llanowar Elves
4 Elves of Deep Shadow
4 Dark Confident
4 Dimir Cutpurse
4 Hypnotic Specter
4 Mystic Snake

4 Remand
3 Psionic Blast
4 Call of the Herd
4 Putrefy

6 Forest
3 Swamps
1 Island
3 Watery Grave
4 Breeding Pool
4 Overgrown Tomb

Evil or Very Mad

buda · Joined: 18 Jun 2005 Posts: 49

UGB v.2

lands (21)
5 forest
3 swamps
1 island
3 watery grave
4 breeding pool
4 overgrwon tomb
1 Yamivaya Coast

creatures ( 24 )
4 elves of deep shadow
4 bird of paradise
4 ohran viper
4 hypnotic specter
4 shadowmage infiltrator
2 Moroii
2 Mystic snake

spells(15)
4 remand
4 putrefy
3 call of the herd

The SB would need to wait for a metegame to develop