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Pollo
Joined: 16 Nov 2004 Posts: 88
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Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 8:03 pm Post subject: France Nationals Results |
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First Place - Sylvain Larioul
Name: White Winnie
// Lands
17 Plains
4 Hallowed Fountain
1 Adarkar Wastes
1 Eiganjo Castle
// Creatures
2 Eight-and-a-Half-Tails
4 Isamaru, Hound of Konda
4 Savannah Lions
1 Infantry Veteran
4 Hand of Honor
4 Samurai of the Pale Curtain
2 Azorius Guildmage
3 Kami of Ancient Law
1 Paladin en-Vec
1 Nagao, Bound by Honor
4 Shining Shoal
// Other Spells
4 Glorious Anthem
2 Umezawa's Jitte
1 Charge Across the Araba
// Sideboard:
SB: 1 Wojek Siren
SB: 1 Manriki-Gusari
SB: 2 Azorius Guildmage
SB: 1 Eiganjo Castle
SB: 1 Kami of Ancient Law
SB: 1 Umezawa's Jitte
SB: 1 Opal-Eye, Konda's Yojimbo
SB: 1 Hokori, Dust Drinker
SB: 2 Bathe in Light
SB: 2 Paladin en-Vec
SB: 2 Ghost Quarter
Second Place - Selim Creiche
Name: Vore
// Lands
2 Izzet Boilerworks
4 Steam Vents
1 Oboro, Palace in the Clouds
1 Minamo, School at Water's Edge
5 Mountain
7 Island
4 Shivan Reef
// Creature
4 Magnivore
// Other Spells
4 Sleight of Hand
4 Compulsive Research
4 Eye of Nowhere
4 Pyroclasm
3 Wildfire
2 Tidings
4 Stone Rain
4 Mana Leak
3 Demolish
// Sideboard:
SB: 2 Threads of Disloyalty
SB: 2 Steamcore Weird
SB: 4 Volcanic Hammer
SB: 4 Remand
SB: 2 Boseiju, Who Shelters All
SB: 1 Meloku the Clouded Mirror
Third Place - Jonathan Rispal
Name: U/W Winnie
// Lands
4 Hallowed Fountain
2 Azorius Chancery
4 Adarkar Wastes
1 Eiganjo Castle
1 Minamo, School at Water's Edge
1 Ghost Quarter
6 Plains
3 Island
// Creatures
2 Grand Arbiter Augustin IV
4 Sky Hussar
2 Court Hussar
2 Paladin en-Vec
2 Hand of Honor
3 Azorius Guildmage
3 Kami of Ancient Law
2 Drowned Rusalka
3 Weathered Wayfarer
4 Isamaru, Hound of Konda
// Other Spells
4 Shining Shoal
4 Remand
3 Umezawa's Jitte
// Sideboard:
SB: 1 Kira, Great Glass-Spinner
SB: 1 Manriki-Gusari
SB: 1 Descendant of Kiyomaro
SB: 1 Wojek Siren
SB: 2 Hokori, Dust Drinker
SB: 1 Ghost Quarter
SB: 1 Opal-Eye, Konda's Yojimbo
SB: 1 Hand of Honor
SB: 1 Umezawa's Jitte
SB: 2 Condemn
SB: 3 Mana Leak
Fourth Place - Yann Hamon
Name: Zoo
// Lands
4 Temple Garden
4 Sacred Foundry
4 Stomping Ground
4 Battlefield Forge
2 Karplusan Forest
2 Brushland
// Creatures
4 Scab-Clan Mauler
2 Tin Street Hooligan
4 Savannah Lions
4 Isamaru, Hound of Konda
4 Kird Ape
4 Watchwolf
// Other Spells
4 Seal of Fire
4 Lightning Helix
4 Char
3 Volcanic Hammer
3 Giant Growth
// Sideboard:
SB: 1 Tin Street Hooligan
SB: 4 Paladin en-Vec
SB: 3 Umezawa's Jitte
SB: 2 Kami of Ancient Law
SB: 3 Pacifism
SB: 2 Bathe in Light
Fifth Place - Guillaume Matignon
Name: Heartbeat Combo
// Lands
12 Forest
9 Island
1 Swamp
// Creatures
4 Sakura-Tribe Elder
4 Drift of Phantasms
1 Maga, Traitor to Mortals
// Other Spells
4 Sensei's Divining Top
4 Kodama's Reach
4 Heartbeat of Spring
3 Weird Harvest
2 Gigadrowse
4 Remand
4 Muddle the Mixture
4 Early Harvest
// Sideboard:
SB: 3 Simic Sky Swallower
SB: 1 Research/Development
SB: 1 Crime/Punishment
SB: 2 Savage Twister
SB: 1 Pyroclasm
SB: 4 Carven Caryatid
SB: 1 Dimir Infiltrator
SB: 1 Mountain
SB: 1 Loaming Shaman
Sixth Place - Olivier Hauchard
Name: U/W Winnie
// Lands
1 Azorius Chancery
4 Adarkar Wastes
1 Eiganjo Castle
1 Quicksand
4 Hallowed Fountain
1 Island
1 Ghost Quarter
1 Minamo, School at Water's Edge
1 Oboro, Palace in the Clouds
7 Plains
// Creatures
2 Grand Arbiter Augustin IV
4 Isamaru, Hound of Konda
3 Weathered Wayfarer
3 Paladin en-Vec
2 Azorius Guildmage
3 Sky Hussar
2 Court Hussar
1 Hokori, Dust Drinker
2 Kami of Ancient Law
1 Hand of Honor
2 Samurai of the Pale Curtain
// Other Spells
3 Shining Shoal
2 Mana Leak
4 Remand
4 Umezawa's Jitte
// Sideboard:
SB: 2 Manriki-Gusari
SB: 2 Pithing Needle
SB: 2 Descendant of Kiyomaro
SB: 1 Kami of Ancient Law
SB: 3 Condemn
SB: 3 Spell Snare
SB: 1 Shining Shoal
SB: 1 Ghost Quarter
Seventh Place - Yannick Lacroix
Name: U/W Winnie
// Lands
1 Eiganjo Castle
1 Minamo, School at Water's Edge
1 Azorius Chancery
1 Quicksand
2 Ghost Quarter
4 Adarkar Wastes
4 Hallowed Fountain
6 Plains
2 Island
// Creatures
4 Isamaru, Hound of Konda
3 Weathered Wayfarer
3 Paladin en-Vec
2 Azorius Guildmage
3 Sky Hussar
1 Court Hussar
1 Eight-and-a-Half-Tails
1 Hokori, Dust Drinker
2 Kami of Ancient Law
1 Samurai of the Pale Curtain
2 Hand of Honor
2 Grand Arbiter Augustin IV
// Other Spells
4 Umezawa's Jitte
2 Mana Leak
4 Remand
3 Shining Shoal
// Sideboard:
SB: 2 Pithing Needle
SB: 2 Condemn
SB: 2 Manriki-Gusari
SB: 3 Spell Snare
SB: 1 Shining Shoal
SB: 1 Kami of Ancient Law
SB: 3 Descendant of Kiyomaro
SB: 1 Kira, Great Glass-Spinner
Eight Place: Steven Gouin
Name: Ghost Husk
// Lands
4 Godless Shrine
1 Eiganjo Castle
1 Shizo, Death's Storehouse
4 Caves of Koilos
4 Swamp
3 Orzhov Basilica
5 Plains
// Creatures
4 Isamaru, Hound of Konda
4 Plagued Rusalka
4 Dark Confidant
3 Eight-and-a-Half-Tails
3 Orzhov Pontiff
4 Nantuko Husk
3 Ghost Council of Orzhova
// Other Spells
3 Shining Shoal
4 Promise of Bunrei
3 Mortify
3 Umezawa's Jitte
//Sideboard:
SB: 3 Castigate
SB: 4 Descendant of Kiyomaro
SB: 3 Mindslicer
SB: 3 Kami of Ancient Law
SB: 2 Pithing Needle
Top 8
Guillaume Matignon 0 - 2 Selim Creiche
Heartbeat Combo vs Vore
Yann Hamon 2 - 1 Olivier Hauchard
Zoo vs U/W Winnie
Jonathan Rispal 2 - 0 Yannick Lacroix
U/W Winnie vs U/W Winnie
Steven Gouin 1 - 2 Sylvain Lauriol
Ghost Husk vs White Winnie
Top 4
Selim Creiche 2 - 0 Yann Hamon
Vore vs Zoo
Jonathan Rispal 1 - 2 Sylvain Lauriol
U/W Winnie vs White Winnie
Finals
Sylvain Lauriol 2 - 0 Selim Creiche
White Winnie vs Vore |
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MeddlingMatt
Joined: 09 Mar 2006 Posts: 79
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Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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Just as everyone predicted, WWu (U/W Winnie??) ran rampant over the meta-game!!
...WtF? |
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Arathomir
Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 231
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Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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Since when did a janky WW deck become the best deck in the format. Did the French miss the metagame entirely AGAIN??? I mean, come on, 6 aggro decks, Tron (the only really decent deck) and 1 combo? Didn't Regionals show that control is viable again?
EDIT: WW-ish decks running Weathered Wayfarer, are they that scarce on land??? Or is this a French fad?
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WiCkEdWiZaRd
Joined: 06 Sep 2004 Posts: 73
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Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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I think the top 8 must of been copying Oliver Ruels shuffling styles.
lol siren is not even playable in limited. |
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Vodka_drink
Joined: 13 Mar 2005 Posts: 1145 Location: Brampton O
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Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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im surpised to see heartbeat top 8 and that WW deck in my opinion shouldnt have won
vodka |
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Dr_Moo
Joined: 26 Nov 2004 Posts: 1013
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Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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| God damnit. I hate playing Constructed without a reason, but those U/W decks intrigue me more than any Magic deck I have seen in quite some time. It looks like Laurion built his deck while being held hostage by Jim Roy. |
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launamleto
Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Posts: 112
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Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Arathomir wrote: | Since when did a janky WW deck become the best deck in the format. Did the French miss the metagame entirely AGAIN??? I mean, come on, 6 aggro decks, Tron (the only really decent deck) and 1 combo? Didn't Regionals show that control is viable again?
EDIT: WW-ish decks running Weathered Wayfarer, are they that scarce on land??? Or is this a French fad? |
there the french, they hardly matter. |
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MTGFAN911
Joined: 25 Jun 2006 Posts: 162
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Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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| yeah if other countries didnt matter than the format would never change though in this particular case i think your right those U/W decks are horrible they lack the reach and the speed of Zoo and WW/r |
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Vodka_drink
Joined: 13 Mar 2005 Posts: 1145 Location: Brampton O
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Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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i hope the asian and northamerican top 8s are better!
Vodka |
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TD
Joined: 19 Jul 2006 Posts: 110
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Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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It appears that in the abscence of Ruel and other top players the format degenerated. One thing worth noting is that the GP was near enough that many of the players who would ordinarily go to nationals instead decided to go to the GP; with a lot of them gone, aggro rises up as it is less skill intensive, as well as the control players being worse.
First place: White weenie? Meh. The dumb part isn't that its white weenie, but that its running such amazingly (terrible) cards as Infantry Veteran. Nagao is interesting, as he is a 4/4 for 4 in mono-white who is a 5/5 if blocked on the attack. Downside is, he dies to a lightning helix.
Its basically samurai.dec, and is underwhelming. Not awful, mind you, but not exactly spectacular either. I'm surprised it won, but I'd wager the reason is that the format was WoG light and likely didn't have enough stall, as decks toting those can deal. Is carven caryatid finally useful?
Vore in second is no surprise; the deck is powerful, but boring. Nothing wrong with it doing well, its a good deck which owns control.
The UW weenie in third place is even more underwhelming than the first deck; it runs Grand Arbiter, who is kind of bad. Sky Hussar is an interesting choice, but I knew that there was a chance that card was good, but the arbiter is very meh, especially given how few spells in the deck actually benefit from it.
Zoo is very good, so no surprise.
Heartbeat is good, so no surprise; it can outrace the slower WW decks which have little to disrupt its plans.
UW weenie in sixth/seventh is much like the one in third, but a bit more disruptive; seems more able to deal with heartbeat, maybe.
And Ghost Husk, the terrible aggro deck, rounds out the top 8. I might add, though, that this is a bit better than the old fare due to the MDed 8.5 tails; I think that a mass of WW has swept accross the format to the point where all the successful WW decks are running 8.5. Not that 8.5 is bad; he's actually always been a good and techy card which has been underplayed and is finally coming out. But I think the format is a bit skewed towards WW, given the presence of 8.5 tails in all the aggro decks save zoo. However, in a WW dominated field, BW like that is a lot better. I'm noting a massive increase in the amount of Jittes MD; perhaps people just stopped running artifact destruction?
It seems that the T8 had zoo come through UW weenie, then face vore and lose; then vore faced WW, which Vore has no chance against. Meanwhile WW runs into husk, then UW weenie, then vore, a pretty clear road for it to the #1 slot.
It would be more informative if we knew the overall makeup of the tourney; if half the field was running WW, this is about what I'd expect. It might also be that 8.5 tails teched its way into the format, and a lot of decks were removal light and got owned by it.
| Quote: | | Since when did a janky WW deck become the best deck in the format. Did the French miss the metagame entirely AGAIN??? I mean, come on, 6 aggro decks, Tron (the only really decent deck) and 1 combo? Didn't Regionals show that control is viable again? |
No. Control is not your god, and in fact control rolls to decks like Zoo. Zoo itself has some decks it has a harder time beating, but it has no unwinnable matchups, very much unlike some of the en vogue control decks at the moment. This is one of many reasons why ED is a better choice; post-board you steal all their jank, especially their jittes, and eventually win. However, running tron is to ask to lose to decks like these, and it is possible that part of the reason these decks did so well is that people screwed up and ran janky control decks which get pounded by janky aggro decks. Tron's worst enemy is decks like these, and I'm not surprised that all of these decks absolutely annhilate tron.
And note that the one control deck which did T8 was vore, NOT tron. Vore is much better than tron because it actually has a chance against decks like zoo; problem is that with a T8 like this the vore deck is screwed; indeed, it only made it to second because it got paired with the ONLY two decks in the T8 it actually beat. WW isn't vulnerable to mana screw the same way zoo is, so WW, though janky as heck, beats Vore.
This is an incredibly fast meta, and you'd better be running stuff to slow stuff down or get out of the way, because you'll get flattened if you don't. |
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buda
Joined: 18 Jun 2005 Posts: 49
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 12:50 am Post subject: |
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just 3 words Oh My God
the ruel bust be hiting their faces to the floor! |
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Goji
Joined: 09 Apr 2006 Posts: 102
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 12:58 am Post subject: |
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| wow i had been playing u/w skies here recently alot.. i didnt know it was actually that great atm lol |
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Clash
Joined: 10 May 2005 Posts: 29
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 1:43 am Post subject: |
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French nationals are simply gays.....
4 uw weenie in top 8.....
with random creatures..... |
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Vodka_drink
Joined: 13 Mar 2005 Posts: 1145 Location: Brampton O
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 1:58 am Post subject: |
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| Eccezziunal wrote: | French nationals are simply gays.....
4 uw weenie in top 8.....
with random creatures..... |
agreed!
Vodka |
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Streakz
Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 112
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 3:44 am Post subject: |
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First let me say I do think these lists are terrible and the majority of them shouldn't have top 8ed.
With that said, heres my 2 cents.
Infantry Veteran - the guys 9th 1 drop
Nagao - a card that is good with the shoals and attacks for 4
Siren - Good Against non white Aggro decks and pyroclasm (I think?)
Feel free to disagree though, I am probably wrong. |
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