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2 different B/W Control decks, which should I use(REIGONALS)



 
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Which B/W control should I use
Reuseable Goons
12%
 12%  [ 1 ]
House Guard Control
87%
 87%  [ 7 ]
Total Votes : 8

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Markosis



Joined: 10 Jan 2005
Posts: 4

PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 11:17 am    Post subject: 2 different B/W Control decks, which should I use(REIGONALS) Reply with quote

Hi, I have 2 different B/W decks I want to use when going to the regionals. (I know both are kind of a long shot, but I play with what I have)

This first deck uses some creatures that avoid mass kill and wins though sapping energy and gaining life. The deck also uses some deck and hand control

Reusable Goons

//Creatures
2 x Akuta, born of ash
4 x Descentant of Kiyomaro
2 x Dimir House Guard
2 x Ink-eyes, Servent of Oni

//Spells
4 x Mortify
4 x Castigate
3 x Cranial Extraction
3 x Wrath of God

//Enchantmants
4 x Genju of the Fields
4 x Faiths Fetter's
3 x Phrexian Arena

//Artifacts
3 x Sensei's Divining top

//Land
4 x Godless Shrine
4 x Caves of Koilos
8 x Swamp
6 x Plains

///Sideboard
4 x Ghostly prison
3 x Sacred Ground
3 x Kami of Ancent Law
3 x Defence Grid
2 x Persecute

The next deck uses dimir house guard to find some relevent spells though transmute and wins through beats from angels and dragons, it also has the habit of keeping a large hand. (Which is good for Maro Effects)

House Guard Control

//Creatures
4 x Angel of Dispair
4 x Descendant of Kiyomaro
3 x Dimir House Guard
2 x Kagemaro, first to suffer
2 x Kokusho, the Evening Star
1 x Ink-Eyes, Servent of Oni

//Spells
4 x Mortify
1 x Wrath of God
1 x Eradicate
1 x Nightmare Void
1 x Persecute

//Enchantments
4 x Phyrexian Arena
4 x Faiths fetters
2 x Debtors' Knell

//Artifacts
4 x Orzhov Signet

//Land
4 x Godless Shrine
4 x Caves of Koilos
2 x Orzhov Basilica
1 x Shizo, Death's Store House
1 x Mirin, the moaninf Well
1 x Mikokoro, Center of the Sea
5 x Swamp
4 x Plains

///Sideboard
4 x Ghostly Prison
3 x Kami of Ancient Law
3 x Sacred Ground
2 x Cranial Extraction
1 x Wrath of God
1 x Seize the Soul
1 x Scour
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sgtpepper87



Joined: 30 Nov 2005
Posts: 113

PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Definately play the house guard control, but include more wraths, 1 can be too less against aggro. Include 4 (if you have them irl obv)
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Insanity



Joined: 11 Apr 2006
Posts: 164

PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The house guard one is the better deck, but they're both pretty bad.
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thattomguy



Joined: 03 Oct 2005
Posts: 7

PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 12:02 pm    Post subject: house guard control Reply with quote

the houseguard is much more powerful something i liked to do while play testing a deck like that was main decking a cranial (if you have one) -the Kagemaro's for wrath you can tutor for the mass removal then. also minus the angels and add in more dragons again if you have them i would much rather see recuring yoseis or kokushos then angels from knell also think about more early game control like last gasp cus it really sucks to mortify a kird ape on turn three
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snoopster



Joined: 04 Dec 2004
Posts: 717
Location: nj

PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if u can afford shrines, then you can probably afford the other stuff to make your decks better. i'd look at some of the pt lists
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Markosis



Joined: 10 Jan 2005
Posts: 4

PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I traded for all 4 of the Godless Shrines (In one day :S). I will do mass trading on the day of the RQ (If I can get 2 Kokusho or Yosei, they will be decked). Also the Dimir House Control is based on a PT deck, just modified
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Kittens



Joined: 01 May 2006
Posts: 13

PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what regionals are you going to.
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Markosis



Joined: 10 Jan 2005
Posts: 4

PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stafford, England Very Happy
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DESTRUCTOR



Joined: 28 Jun 2005
Posts: 113

PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

house guard is the betther one of those 2..but i don't know how good it is in this metagame.....but recomend you do this:

- 2 angel of despair, - 1 descendant of kiyomaro, - 1 kagemaro, - 3 sensei's divining top

+ 2 wrath + 3 last gasp + 2 yosei

SB - 1 wrath - 2 ghostly prison - 1 seize the soul - 1 kami of the ancient law
+ 4 defense grid, 1 ivory mask

you don't need to have more than 2 dragons or 2 angel of despair because you have debtor's knell to make them back and the divining top's are bad in this deck because you dont shuffle your deck besides you'll draw 2 times per turn so no need for topdecking something with the sensei's...add a miren, the moaning well to the mana base it works well with the dragons and debtor's knell jeje...defense grid is a card you must have because counters will make you lose every time
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Manipulation



Joined: 10 Mar 2006
Posts: 294
Location: Oxnard

PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Markosis wrote:
Stafford, England Very Happy


English Regionals? Either of these is T8 fo sho then, lol, j/k.
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Foiled_Again



Joined: 13 Dec 2005
Posts: 4

PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 9:05 pm    Post subject: The List I am taking Reply with quote

Creatures
4 Descendant of Kiyomaro
3 Dimir House Guard
2 Yosei, the Morning Star
2 Kokusho, the Evening Star

Removal
3 Condemn
4 Mortify
3 Faith’s Fetters
4 Wrath of God
1 Night of Souls’ Betrayal <-- Might become a Nightmare Void

Support
3 Phyrexian Arena
2 Debtor’ Knell
1 Jester’s Cap <-- Or a Cranial, but I like this more game 1

Mana Producers
4 Orzhov Signet
4 Godless Shrine
4 Caves of Koilos
4 Orzhov Basilica
1 Eiganjo Castle
4 Plains
7 Swamp

Side Board
3 Weathered Wayfarer
3 Sacred Ground
3 Castigate
2 Kami of Achent Law
2 Cranial Extraction
1 Ivory Mask
1 Nightmare Void <-- Might swap with Night of Souls Betrayal
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