sideboard for Enduring Ideal deck

JackThaRippa · Joined: 07 Apr 2005 Posts: 32

ok here's my decklist

Lands (23)
4 Hallowed Fountain
4 Adarkar Waste
3 Steam Vents
2 Sacred Foundry
3 Islands
2 plains
1 Mountain
3 Boseiju
1 Prahv, Spires of Order

Spells(3 Cool

4 Azorius Signets
2 Izzet signets
4 Enduring Ideal
3 Form of The dragon
2 Dovescape
1 Meishin The mind cage
1 Reverence
2 Faith's Fetters
1 Zur's weirding
3 seething song
4 remand
4 telling time
3 electrolyze
4 Wrath of god

The mana base seems funky but somehow I almost never take a mulligan.
In testing, I found out that dovescape is really gr8 against heartbeat ! I MEAN REALLY lol. They cant win the tokens race and you have boseiju, Thats why I was thinking about a way to exploit dovescape even more with my sideboard for some surprising aggro transformation. I was thinking about pride of the clouds. My worst matchup is Vore but in testing I manage to pull out some wins thx to my signets( I have to play first tho) oh and pretty much any post board BW archetype break this deck. Cranials and mindslicers Sad

so any suggestions for my sideboard ??

metzel_usa · Joined: 01 Jan 2006 Posts: 110

I know I will get flamed for this but listen....I have played ideal for the longest time and have found that against an extraction deck they roll over to....you heard me....SHADOW OF DOUBT. It is so good. I mean how can you not like countering Cranial and drawing a card?2 for 1? And with mindslicer wouldnt Pure INtentions work?

JackThaRippa · Joined: 07 Apr 2005 Posts: 32

SHADOW OF DOUBT ! Twisted Evil

I forgot about that, it really shines yea ! imma try pure intentions too, Thx man. Oh and btw, why would people flame you on this ? lol. meh I believe you ! Wink

About heartbeat.. I forgot they could go for the transformation plan, but I think its not a good idea anyway... They just dont have the punch that gruul has to beat me b4 I go off.

Ok here's my board version beta

4 shadow of doubts
3 pure intentions
4 sacred grounds
3 pride of the clouds
1 Boseiju, who shelters all

im think about condemn and mana leaks but condem is not really hot in that deck. my wraths, faiths and electrolyzes are good enough ag. aggro. Leaks would be for vore but idk.

Russell_Nash · Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Posts: 645 Location: Burn Ward

IMO you donâ€™t need 3 Boseijus main, try 1 main 2 sb or something like that. Id also suggest an alterative win condition in SB in case you get cranialed. maybe that Genju of the Realm, or maybe thereâ€™s something new in dissension.

JackThaRippa · Joined: 07 Apr 2005 Posts: 32

I might cut 1 boseiju.. The thing is I never have mana problems even with 3 main deck. I go with 3 because I expect a lot of UW or UG controlish shit for regionals. right now my alternate win condition in the side is Pride of the clouds, But im not sure about that.. Im checking in the spoilers right now.. maybe flame fusillade with dovescape Twisted Evil

lmao

_Metallica_ · Joined: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 92

SB:
2x Yosei, the Morning Star
1x Keiga, the Tide Star
1x Boseiju, Who Shelters All (if u play 2 in MD)
4x Stone Rain
4x Annex
3x Wildfire

if you want MD advices:
-1 Boseiju
-1 Form of the Dragon
-1 Reverance
-3 Seething Song
-3 Electrolyze

+1 Stream Vents
+2 Faith's Fetters
+1 Debtor's Kneel
+2 Confiscate
+3 Sleight of Hand

the Emiment Domain SB, is very good against control decks... well that's just my opinion

JackThaRippa · Joined: 07 Apr 2005 Posts: 32

The Sb seems cool but I just wonder why the Debtors Knell MD if there is no creatures MD ? Im thinkin about Confiscate. Oh and dude, have you test the deck ? Seething song is so all star I can't imagine cutting it. It allows turn 4 Ideal !

_Metallica_ · Joined: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 92

yes i've tested it, and as far as i know... getting Ideal is more important than casting it ASAP, i would prefer casting ideal 70% of the time on turn 6 than casting it 30% on turn 4 (this are not statics they are just examples)... Knell is to bring your opponent creatures back, u can put it on SB if you expect a lot of creature ligth decks.

JackThaRippa · Joined: 07 Apr 2005 Posts: 32

I understand your point. xept against 2 top decks you really have to hurry up --> Husk and Gruul, which are 2 popular and very good decks. I still think its a must. Notice that there is 11 card drawin spells in my version. I always draw an Ideal !

Apos · Joined: 24 May 2005 Posts: 733

no need for knell cause u have no removmal and no creatures

uberJeenyus · Joined: 12 Mar 2006 Posts: 10

ive found that Tops are pretty clutch for ideal, helps get the cards u need fast, and prevents you from drawing an enchantment before u go off. for sideboard though if youre having trouble with vore, sacred ground will help a lot

st4x · Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 358

knell is just an extra win condition vs cranial were u can wog then play knell and get back wtv u killed

Draktorn · Joined: 01 Feb 2006 Posts: 8

Erm... how do you win the token race with dovescape vs. heartbeat when you can't play spells?

Alandariel · Joined: 17 Jan 2006 Posts: 145

Dovescape + Reverance. <3

kfcman1084 · Joined: 14 Jan 2006 Posts: 434