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ShadowS
Joined: 03 Mar 2006 Posts: 158
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 8:21 pm Post subject: Elf - Torch |
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Heres a deck I made based on an old combo back when it first game around, changed with some new cards. I'm honestly new to Vintage (or types even), so dispense your knowledgeable advise. I doubt the deck is all the competetive, let me know.
13 Forest
1 Black lotus
1 Mox Emerald
1 Sol Ring
2 Kaervek's Torch
3 Recycle
4 Carven Catayatid
2 Vine Trellis
4 Priest of Titania
4 Fyndhorn Elves
4 Skyshroud Elves
3 Fervor
1 Fastbond
1 Refellos, Llanowar Emissary
4 Llanowar Elves
4 Alluren
4 Birds of Paradise
4 Glimpse of Nature
Once you get the Enchantments down, you can cycle through your library placing as many elves as it takes for a torch. Glimpse can be a replacement for recycle, or an early game few card draw depending on your hand.
I haven't set up a SB yet, but obvious weakness's is wrath of god or pyroclasm type effects, although, they aren't game ending, because what is important is the enchants. After that building back up isn't so hard. |
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ck3gds
Joined: 21 Jun 2005 Posts: 235
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:52 am Post subject: |
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IMO since your victory condition is Kaervek's Torch I'm sure you'll need 4 copies of it, and yes it won't hurt to put in all the moxes.
-4 Carven Caryatid
+1 Mox Pearl
+1 Mox Sapphire
+1 Mox Jet
+1 Mox Ruby
-5 Forest
+4 Taiga
+1 Tropical Island
-4 Skyshroud Elves
+2 Kaervek's Torch
+1 Time Walk
+1 Ancestral Recall
-1 Recycle
-1 Fervor
+2 Vine Trellis
My two cents' worth, I'm also not very experienced with Vintage. |
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Void06
Joined: 31 Dec 2004 Posts: 179
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 11:49 am Post subject: |
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| wall of blossoms > carven carytid |
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eaglewolf
Joined: 08 Sep 2004 Posts: 55
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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can you please play that deck in every mini? i would love to pair vs you.
not to be offensive, but the deck is chunks. there is no way it would win unless your opp mulls to 3
it has NO disruption. what turn does it win on? |
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Russell_Nash
Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Posts: 645 Location: Burn Ward
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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| its my experience with t1(which is very limited) if u cant win by turn 2 or 3, your sunk. Decks are so blistering fast in T1, a significant amount of the game is already done before the 2nd player gets his turn. |
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vomath
Joined: 11 Apr 2006 Posts: 1
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Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Russell_Nash wrote: | | its my experience with t1(which is very limited) if u cant win by turn 2 or 3, your sunk. Decks are so blistering fast in T1, a significant amount of the game is already done before the 2nd player gets his turn. |
You don't have to actually win by turn 2 or 3 (only combo decks do really) but you do have to do something that will have an impact on the game like play some counterspells/discard, chalice of the voids, or something else that will stop your opponent from killing you before you can do anything. Simply laying elves just doesn't cut it. |
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