Entertainingly epic worldgorger ruling dispute with Yakuza

Guest · Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 6:33 am Post subject:

No, you did NOT repeat the combo. You did it 1 single time, AND YOU DIDN'T EVEN DO IT CORRECTLY!!! You didnt even add any mana tapping your mana sources, so you did it incorrectly and you DID IT 1 TIME! You have to do it at least a successful amount of times in a row before you can say Im looping this combo.

YakuzaXRock_ · Joined: 29 Dec 2004 Posts: 18

You didn't even explain how the combo works or even showed it correctly.

And Ant900, same goes for you... you think I'm just going to scoop up my cards and let you win for playing a spell? If you're playing such a dumb deck as Dragon, it's your own fault you have to show that you know how the combination works. If you can't show it, then you're playing the wrong deck for you ----> like poster of this topic did. He didn't show how the combo worked.

Binary Star · Guest

Dude I sat there and politely asked you what it was you wanted to know about the combo. I told you of laquatus/hellkite in my library, I offered to show you my library. I had blue mana and compulsion on the field. Simply put I already knew you had lost unless you had stifle in hand. If you really did have a stifle you would of shown it. Nobody would ever want to play Dragon if they were forced to remove/return their permanents 20something times, I wouldn't want anybody to. In a tornament environment it's nothing more than just stalling things out.

Guest · Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 6:15 am Post subject:

Like I've been saying before, You saying you have won doesn't make you win any games. You think i do that, go around saying "I win" and that makes me win? You have to execute the combo, which you didn't. You have to show how it works, show that you know how it works, and you have to find win conditions. If you cant do it and don't want to repeat your way of winning which you are forced to do (at least a number of times) don't play worldgorger dragon.

Guest · Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 6:17 am Post subject:

It's not my fault you're playing a combo deck that uses a misworded two-card combo that is a missprint of magic's creators; if you're playing a gay deck you better be prepared to play it because according to the rules you must show how the combo works, like it or not. You can't just say I win.

Guest · Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 9:10 am Post subject:

what deck is this exactly? the argument was entertaining to read for me, but i have no clue what deck this is, or how the 'combo' works....

Guest · Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 10:15 am Post subject: in the wrong

You were honestly in the wrong for not presenting the combo mutiple times before trying to go infinite. He had every right to argue with you until you ran the combo properly. All this makes me think is you are a jackass who shouldn't play a deck he isn't willing to automaticly play right

Guest · Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 12:54 pm Post subject:

COOLBOY · Joined: 03 Jul 2005 Posts: 399

Agreed, honestly you have yet to even explain how the combo works even now. All you did was state that certain cards were in your deck. You seem obnoxious, arrogant, and antagonistic which proves some sick alterior motive over denying your opponent's request. You failed to explain the combo at all,as obvious as you may think it is, therefore you were the one that stalled.

Guest · Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 8:38 pm Post subject:

Yakuza's just a whiny little punk who gets pissy when he knows he's losing. That's the only reason he tries to make you play out. He's just a sore loser.

Not much else to say about it.

NightFlare · Joined: 08 Sep 2004 Posts: 234

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i m8 b wrogn and just assuming 2 much but isnt this binary playing teh combo, thus explaining it enough?

Binary_Star · Joined: 01 Feb 2006 Posts: 10

I already knew that I had the game won, and there wasn't anything he could of done. Removing/tapping my permanents doesn't prove anything. I explained my situation well enough, and with compulsion in play I was assured to get hellkite/laquatus in my grave. Doing pointless time wasting manual labor doesn't show anything, especially considering I already explained everything out to him, and was willing to answer any questions and show my victory conditions. The judge I spoke with at the time even agreed that Yakuza was just flat out wrong, and all Yakuza could say was the judges here are not real judges.

There is no living way in hell I would ever want my opponent to waste his/mine time and put himself through such hell after resolving an animate spell if he was playing dragon, that's just plain wrong.

Anti-Christ · Joined: 13 Feb 2006 Posts: 46

Basically it sounds like Yakuza was so happy to get a turn 1 Tinker/Colossus out and got really pissed off when you just won on your turn.

Just being a sore loser is all, it's understandable to make a player go through the procedures but basically this is meant to make sure they know how it works and to see if they screw up at all and by judging by the posts made, he comes accross as a sore loser who was annoyed so he acted like a prick instead of the player making sure you knew how to do it correctly.

Guest · Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 3:19 am Post subject:

lol... yes, what I do know is that winning against some people on here doesn't exactly make me popular. Doesn't matter, call me whatever you want I don't care it doesn't matter to me, this is just online magic, worth very little, you should play magic irl, because of a lot of reasons. This place has potential and could be good, but it isn't, unfortunately.

It's because of a lot of stupid factors, i.e. the time rule, people stalling, and much else. I'm not participating in anything except type1, because if I (or anyone else) would like to play control in any other format say extended scepter chant I (or whoever the control person is) get stalled out and will lose, even if I'm winning the game, the rules about this is just outrageous. The point isn't I'm the one losing, the point is that it's wrong and I want things to be right/fair whoever is playing. Yes, sometimes a control deck has won an extended tournament, but this is a rare thing, control is at huge disadvantage here.

Second, I'm not neither here to try get popular votes, nor here to take any shit from idiots like you. I was nice here, a long time ago. Times have changed. All you idiots fucked it up a long time ago... no more mr nice guy. No, I'm not bitter about anything, maybe you would think I would be so of playing here for some time and going through various crap, but no I'm not, it's a game and that's what it eventually is. It's just that (some of you) chose to mess this place up with time stalling, cheating, corrupt judges and a lot of crap. This obviously doesn't apply to everyone, magic league has its nice side too , some nice people and nice "judges" (it's much better than people on the mws servers!) But because of this crap a lot of you pull, I'm not going to be nice to anyone else since you aren't to me (or anyone else). Since online magic can't be anywhere close to magic in real life, thanks to these fucked up rules about time and such, the game meta gets extremely warped since the only viable decks are beatdown (because it doesnt take time) I suggest only playtest on internet and play real magic irl.

I realize this is the wrong way to try and fix things, because me being pissed will also piss others off and create an even worse situation, but it's you idiots who made it this way; now enjoy it. Like I said I was nice a long time ago, not anymore. Therefore, play through your worldgorger dragon combo, you are forced to do it like it or not. I couldn't care less about my tinker/colos on turn 1 or winning/losing, I've played more important games than this irl, this game meant absolutely nothing... and I don't care very much if I win or lose around here... I just want some good testing that I can use later, or some good games that was fun and both enjoyed, then if i lose 1-2 and opponent deserved it, it's fine.

What matters is how people act. Also I wanted to see you knew how the combo worked which every decent player would do, and see your win conditions so i know how to board for game 2/3. You can't just go around say "i play animate dead gg". The rules say you have to play/show how the combo works.

Ancient · Joined: 25 Sep 2004 Posts: 50

Here is a suggestion for playing any deck. You don't scoop cause somebody does something. It is plain stupid. There have been many times where i forced my opponent to concede by simply playing a Desire in 1x, Uba Mask in t1 or a simple chill in 1.5. You don't know if the person can actually go off in especially the case of a combo. Just combo the deck out to the point where the opponent is actually dead. Yakuza is right for not conceding and forcing you to actually have to combo your deck out. This league has so many people playing decks such as TPS and the likes that don't actually have the skill or the expertise to play them. Learning to actually play your deck properly will increase your chances of winning.

-Ancient