Asylum Rants - 14 - Judges Are Lazy

DrFueng · Joined: 17 Aug 2005 Posts: 187

Jlax, where's your SIG??? I didn't make it so you could not use it...! lol.

@ everyone else: Wow, you guys sure are in an uproar about this. I have no opinion really, as I'm not a judge, but I feel someone has to be the voice of impartiality here so it might as well be me.

Speaking as a ML player I would like to see more minis. But as the Rolling Stones put it 'you can't always get what you want'. That's fine. I don't mind as ML is free and I'll take whatever I can get. That said...

To be the Devil's Advocate (Craze's Lawyer) IMO he's only talking to the Judges he feels are skirking thier responsibilities or otherwise taking advantage of being a Judge. I think that by suggesting outlandish statutes and rules he knew would never see the light of day, he was just trying to call attention to his main point: There aren't enough minis. Well, I'd say he accomplished this as there was resounding feedback and now everyone knows how he feels.

On the side of everyone else; It's like this...I'm a member of ML. No one knows who I am. I'm a decent artist, so I put up examples of my work so people can see it and maybe I can do some sigs for them. I do it for free, I don't get paid. There are no benifits in it for me. The only thing I get is the appreciation of the people I've done work for. It's the same for the judges...they don't get paid. They do it in thier free time. If they do it so they can get points then fine, I'd say it's a small compensation for running a FREE online tourney or 4. I think we (Craze) should ask ourselves if we might be taking advantage of what's effectively a gift.

Having said all that...What I have done is take the Judges test. Maybe I passed and maybe I didn't, who knows? But I can say that if (when) I am a judge, I'll run TONS of minis.
Just for the sheer joy of being useful Smile

And no, that isn't a shameless plug to try and get me through the gauntlet of test scoring and training faster, it's just an example showing that there are alternatives to randomly bitching about free shite. (and I know Craze failed the judge test, but there are other people who read this thread and don't post, and maybe they share his opinion...so the example is for them too)

Well that was awfully long and rather tiring, so I'll leave you fellas to it. caio.

Craze · Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 5325 Location: Indiana, U

Alot of you seem to think I'm bitching about this...
Well your wrong...to bitch I'd have to care...And why should I care? No one else seems to care about anyone but themselves...why should I be different? No wait, I'm going off subject...

Fact is, I don't care myself, whether every judge on here is bad or not...but what I do care about is an interesting arguement/subject to talk about. And I found one...
How? I heard people bitching about it...at first I hesitated and just was thinking about it...and it made sense...
My ideas cause alot of damage...ML would lose 2/3rds of their judges(of course about a half will go in a month anyway so whats the difference?) Not just would ML lose alot of judges but it would never hire that many judges....but it wuld get some...and their would be enough minis...guess thats a bad thing.

What I am(or was when I hoped someone would read this and agree helping me get this past)hoping for is that judges would try different methods to remain getting points...I listed Ideas on how in past posts...and these ideas would more or less actually increase the number of minis run...of course thats also(I guess) a bad thing.

And now to address the crowd...starting with nico...

Blake- · Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 3:16 pm Post subject:

Craze · Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 5325 Location: Indiana, U

Blake, if you were a judge and you wanted points with these 3 rules being passed wtf would you do? You would strike deals with judges...or make plans etc..You can find ways around anything and odds say enough judges would ths increasing our minis...

And what if the prize for the most minis held a month was a month of not having to worry about Act 2. You host more minis then anyone else and you can earn points from your own minis for a month...this would result in a LOT more minis..

Blake- · Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 3:26 pm Post subject:

Craze you are one funny guy.

snoopster · Joined: 04 Dec 2004 Posts: 692 Location: nj

I can see both your point of views. However, I have noticed that many judges simply hang out in the chat rooms all day, so it's not like they don't have the time for minis.

At least make it 6-8 minis per month.

Craze · Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 5325 Location: Indiana, U

Blake- · Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 8:30 pm Post subject:

I don't mind if they raise the minimum Minis a month, I think that woul dget more minis. Unlike the other crap Craze suggested.

Aurealis_ · Joined: 29 Sep 2004 Posts: 1

I have been a J1 since Wednesday the 7th. I have run 14 minis with a total of 155 players. I have played in 3 or 4 of them I think. They have been mostly 16 max, with 2 8max drafts. I tried a 32 max but only got 10. It is a shame it is 12am when I normally TC, but that is what different time zones do to ya.

Satisfying?

RThomas · Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 384

This is an old topic, however, I feel the need to address it.

The fact that most of you whiners are American has a lot to do with this. Not because of the general consensus of what we are, but rather I'm looking at the time we're online. I've seen most of the whiners in question only active in the evening/night (9pm-2am CST). For most Americans (and I stress the word most) we have jobs, school, etc the next day, or circumstances prevent us from being online as long as we would like. I see the least amount of channel activity at this time (70-110 users on average). This, I surmise, is the reason you are complaining, that the least amount of judges are active when you are. There's absolutely no way that there are a lack of tournaments. At the times that many Americans are not active, there are on average 2-4 tournaments running simultaneously at any given time.

I should suggest that you either make efforts to be online when you are not normally online, in order to play, or else become a judge yourself if you are not currently one. Don't bother whining about a problem that doesn't exist. Remember that tournaments are started by judges, not heated debates on the forums.

Laplie · League Staff Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 539

since RT revived this old topic....

Average amount of tournaments:

38.03/day (going by the last 30 days)
31.96/day (going by the last year)

That's around 1.5 minis an hour. If that's not enough, too bad.

snoopster · Joined: 04 Dec 2004 Posts: 692 Location: nj

When this topic was originally created, there were not enough minis. But now, with all of the new judges, there are definitely enough minis.

Laplie, you are correct in saying that there are enough minis, but 1.5 an hour isn't important. What is important is how many there are during the important hours(afternoons in USA and afternoon-time Europe). During these hours, there are often 4 or more minis, which is why now there are enough. Who cares what happens 3:00 in the morning?

And what happened to Craze?

Dragon_Lady · Joined: 02 May 2005 Posts: 225

Craze is on vacation, as far as I know.

Shagrath · Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Posts: 197

Most of time i see lots of judges doing nothing on the channel... and most of time when that happens there is no mini's running... so i think that they must do a minimum number of 10 minis per week and not per month or whatever...

Laplie · League Staff Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 539

@snoopster

There was a slump towards the end of the summer. Minis went down to about 22/day . But now they're up again.