Asylum Rants - 14 - Judges Are Lazy

Blake- · Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:19 pm Post subject:

I'm not the one dreaming, you obviously would be the one dreaming with your terrible idea of how this woul dmake judges be more active.

Also you must be dreaming about this whole thing actually going into effect because you and I both know, it most likely will not.

Craze · Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 5325 Location: Indiana, U

Craze · Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 5325 Location: Indiana, U

DoItFaster · Joined: 19 Mar 2005 Posts: 1129 Location: California

I would respond but I have to take a shower. (sounds like what a bad judge would say huh?)

Dzy · Joined: 03 Sep 2004 Posts: 139

Point 2 and 3 are contradictonary... You know judges would do less minis because of point 2, so you just hope they will do more again because of point 3. This is never doable, and you know it.

Why again would you be a judge if you couldn't even compete in your own minis. And don't say you can, because you might as well just play casual games if you don't play for rating or team points.

I don't say that judges don't care about the wants of players, I say that they also want to have actual benefits of spending time in being a judge. And that running a mini is only pairing is bullshit, since you have to answer questions in your mini, watch if the round is finished etc. You can't do anything else while holding a mini, unless you check irc every 2 minutes... and believe me, that excludes a lot of activities I do on my PC. So stop being a **** and admit that this is bullshit.

Dev · Joined: 27 Oct 2004 Posts: 96

The first thing to consider with this ludicrous idea, is that the judges here are simply players same as you. If they have nothing to gain from doing something they generally won't do it. I know I wouldn't make a mini if I wasn't even going to play in it, it wouldn't be fair to you guys because I would get distracted doing something else and forget about it. The thought that they shouldn't get anything for playing in them seems rediculous aswell, if they win they win. If you have a problem with a corrupt judge nico takes complaints.

But seriously, when you make requests like this try to picture yourself in the situation. Would you spend 3-4 hours just sitting here staring at the irc screen without playing and not being able to do anything else? Obviously not, unless you have some other sort of issues. I make minis when I want to play, and I generally win them. If I got no teampoints or rating for winning in them I'd probably still make them to play but I wouldn't be as inclined to make as many.

If you want to give an incentive run more minis, go ahead. I don't have a problem with that but to penalize a judge because he doesn't spend his entire life on irc playing magic is a pretty lame idea. I run minis pretty frequently, I answer rulings in j4u(correctly unlike a few other people) and have been here for quite a while. If all this garbage were inducted as rules I would probably resign.

Once again, the judges here are simply players like you. They aren't staff members whos job it is to keep everyone happy or such, they don't get anything out of it or anything like that just volunteers wanting to help out and to be so strict and force that much upon them you'd find yourself with quite a bit less minis.

Dzy · Joined: 03 Sep 2004 Posts: 139

I couldn't agree more.

*oops* I think i'm spamming a little to show off my cool new signature ;p

Bejeezus · Joined: 12 Dec 2004 Posts: 1712 Location: Right Here

I personally don't care, but I do have my opinions.

I agree with Craze on the idea of raising the minimum amount of minis that a J1 needs to run to keep his(or in some rare cases)/her status with the League.

But the idea about judges not having the ability to gain rating or team points in their own minis, to put it bluntly, is pure bullshit. Think about it, where's the fun in running tournaments if all you do is sit in IRC and watch for timers and answer random questions? Not much I imagine.

If the league could afford it, I do believe there should be some sort of prize for the most active judge, as it shows dedication and commitment, but this is just an option.

Also, In my opinion, Magic-League has a small problem with inactive judges, and I'm sure this can be fixed over time, but there are many J1s in #magic-league, that I have never seen run a mini, this may be because they barely meet the minimum requirements, and this is another reason I feel the league should raise the J1 mini requirements.

Though Craze's rant is a bit flawed, he does make a few points and outrageous proposals that need to be addressed within the league. And I think they will be when the time comes.

nico · Administrator Joined: 28 Oct 2003 Posts: 804

Recognizers · Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 46

these forums are a joke

mOrPHL1N9 · Joined: 07 Sep 2004 Posts: 22

Craze · Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 5325 Location: Indiana, U

Its a shame that I have been beaten before heard...oh well...
I really only have time to respond to Dzy's post before I need to leave, but I won't do that judt yet...

So keep posting if you will...but realize that until noon, your talking only to yourselfs..

Blake- · Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 7:06 am Post subject:

Dude, Craze even nico owned you... How do you feeel about that?

Black_Elf · Joined: 28 Oct 2003 Posts: 87

The real problem is 8 max minis almsot all judges make 8 maxes just so if they lose they get over with it it fast. Like 15-16 people need a mini and a guy makes a mini but makes it 8 max the other 7-8 just stand around because that judge is too much of a lazy ass. I really think the only 8 max minis allowed should be the draft minis , honestly. 8 max minis piss me off and they piss other players off coz they couldn't join the mini for being 1 minute late because they had to eat/go to the bathroom/smoke a ciggie.

JLax1 · Joined: 10 Nov 2004 Posts: 294 Location: New Jersey