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hello, can you help me Guest
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 4:08 pm Post subject: does the word "each" target or not a permanent |
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i have one question:
does the word "each", for example in oblivion stone, or in culling sun affects a crature with protection or with "can't be the target of spells or abillities"
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???
Joined: 23 Nov 2004 Posts: 36
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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| no, a spell will say target if it is targetting. one noteworthy exception to this might be aura's which do target upon casting. |
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Void06
Joined: 31 Dec 2004 Posts: 179
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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| The word "target" itself must be a part of the text in order to target. GLobal effects such as Wrath of God and Oblivion Stone kill all protection from white and untargetable creatures. |
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djww19
Joined: 15 Mar 2005 Posts: 396
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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| yeah, they've beat it to death, but it's a global effect, so "can't be target" doesn't save em. Sorry. |
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WildCard
Joined: 06 Sep 2004 Posts: 735 Location: Japan
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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| each other creature gets 4 damage. its a 6/6 from urzas block i forget which. but t dosent target. must actually say target for something like that |
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 9:54 am Post subject: |
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| what about pro-red creatures and pyroclasm... i.e. does pyroclasm kill a silver knight or a paladin en-vec? |
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AlexTrebek
Joined: 24 Nov 2004 Posts: 140
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 10:07 am Post subject: |
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| No, pyroclasm doesn't kill pro-red creatures. Part of protection is "Prevent all damage that would be dealt to this permanent by a source of the color/type it has protection from" |
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 12:53 am Post subject: |
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| AlexTrebek wrote: | | No, pyroclasm doesn't kill pro-red creatures. Part of protection is "Prevent all damage that would be dealt to this permanent by a source of the color/type it has protection from" |
Protecrtion DOES NOT prevent damage, there is a suble difference in protection. It reduces damage dealt by the source to zero. This is so that you cannot say something triggers from a prevention of damage (if there is a card that tiggers off that). |
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scurvy
Joined: 01 Sep 2004 Posts: 119
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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 1:28 am Post subject: |
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Protection used to specifically refer to reducing the damage to zero, but that was an older edition of the rules. From the current comp rules on protection:
502.7e Any damage that would be dealt by sources that have the stated quality to a permanent that has protection is prevented.
However, damage prevented still doesn't trigger events related to dealing damage (like Spirit Link or Umezawa's Jitte) because the event that would set off the trigger has been prevented (by replacement effect) from happening. You'll be familiar with the way Dredge replaces a drawn card, thus preventing the draw from occuring. |
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