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digikma
Joined: 14 Feb 2005
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IMO if MWS was more reliable for not crashing, more people would use it. Im walled, dont use Hamachi, but I only play Minis. On countless occassions MWS would crash and not be able to go back to the game state.
Flipp Loss > Game Loss from disconnect |
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JuStiCaR
Joined: 13 Feb 2006
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| Laplie wrote: | | DoItFaster wrote: | | I don't know if I;m the most qualified person to post here (as I'm on a Mac and do not play in... anything), but people are saying the don't have the money to move from 98 to a newer system? That sounds like a bad excuse considering the basic Dell costs like $500. |
Most people here are children/teenagers and have no say if their parents buy a new computer. $500 is a lot for a 16 year old. |
Also, most people here are children/teenagers and many opt to lie in order to win. What's keeping me from lying and saying that I have no hamachi/mws, it doesn't work, etc. when I really have both, it will work, and I just don't hit "waiting for call" or call them, just to bs my way into a flip. What's stopping me from lying to get into flips and win? I agree that in a mini, that's viable. Myself, I can not host, and I cannot host with hamachi. Usually, 9/10 times the games go through because someone else hosts with hamachi and it works just fine, but in the last two mini's I've played I've lost to flips because neither of us could connect.
Me, I think further than a mini, you shouldn't be able to flip for win, both parties should just have to forfeit. That would stop ppl from trying to lie. |
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quidam
Joined: 22 Apr 2005
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[quote="DarkMenzo"][quote="Laplie"] | DoItFaster wrote: | | Also, most people here are children/teenagers and many opt to lie in order to win. |
Yes. Adults, on the other hand, are known for their honesty!
| Quote: | | Me, I think further than a mini, you shouldn't be able to flip for win, both parties should just have to forfeit. That would stop ppl from trying to lie. |
Yes, instead of attempting to offer as much entertainment as can be offered by ensuring at least one of them will continue on playing (or has the option to), we should simply ruin it for the dozens of people who have no viable access to either alternative and happen to be unlucky enough to face each other. |
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NightFlare
Joined: 08 Sep 2004
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| Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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| DarkMenzo wrote: | | Laplie wrote: | | DoItFaster wrote: | | I don't know if I;m the most qualified person to post here (as I'm on a Mac and do not play in... anything), but people are saying the don't have the money to move from 98 to a newer system? That sounds like a bad excuse considering the basic Dell costs like $500. |
Most people here are children/teenagers and have no say if their parents buy a new computer. $500 is a lot for a 16 year old. |
Also, most people here are children/teenagers and many opt to lie in order to win. What's keeping me from lying and saying that I have no hamachi/mws, it doesn't work, etc. when I really have both, it will work, and I just don't hit "waiting for call" or call them, just to bs my way into a flip. What's stopping me from lying to get into flips and win? I agree that in a mini, that's viable. Myself, I can not host, and I cannot host with hamachi. Usually, 9/10 times the games go through because someone else hosts with hamachi and it works just fine, but in the last two mini's I've played I've lost to flips because neither of us could connect. |
nothing stops u from saiyng "wtf omg dude it doesnt connect lol lets flip lol" either
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| Quote: | | Me, I think further than a mini, you shouldn't be able to flip for win, both parties should just have to forfeit. That would stop ppl from trying to lie. |
Yes, instead of attempting to offer as much entertainment as can be offered by ensuring at least one of them will continue on playing (or has the option to), we should simply ruin it for the dozens of people who have no viable access to either alternative and happen to be unlucky enough to face each other. |
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Snakebyte
Joined: 03 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 4:17 pm Post subject: I agree. It should not be so easy to flip through a tourney |
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| I was playing in the trial yesterday and my opponent claimed hamachi 'did not work' for him, and he didnt have MWS. so we flipped. then he admitted he had MWS but refused to use it. a judge eventually ruled that he had to play on MWS, but he won game 1 then stalled through Game 2 for the win. I later learned that his earlier match was a flip-win, and he got a bye round 3. He was eliminated round 4, I feel this is unfair to those of us who play, and think something should be done. I agree. you cannot force someone to play on another program, but you cant force them to join trials either, so it pans out. IF you want to play, then be willing to. Also, if you refuse to play on MWS that may mean you are BWing... |
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quidam
Joined: 22 Apr 2005
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| A judge can rule that? Last I heard Koen's policy was that you can never force someone with MWS in an Apprentice mini to use it, when did this change? |
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ElvishGod
Joined: 12 May 2005
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| Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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| digikma wrote: | IMO if MWS was more reliable for not crashing, more people would use it. Im walled, dont use Hamachi, but I only play Minis. On countless occassions MWS would crash and not be able to go back to the game state.
Flipp Loss > Game Loss from disconnect |
MWS has never crashed on me...
Server has crashed, but you realize there are at least 3 different servers? (use the davey server if MWS crashes) |
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WildCard
Level 1 Judge
Joined: 06 Sep 2004
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Location: Japan
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| Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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| well, a good solution: don't play in Appr minis. if you play in them then expect youll need to flip if you cannot host on apprentice. there is a #Workstation channel. people like to use appr and we allow them to do so. imagine if we were not here. youd be on mwsplay looking for matches finding out that your opponent is a retard or is playing a casual deck. i see the cup at most of the way full. with 200 people on the main channel regularly is better than 30 ppl on a different channel (im not talking where) all playing mws only. i like to have more people. more people = good. more people = better player base. more people = %of experienced people youll face is better. if we had 30 people then GRAH for instance might be the only good vintage player here. but we have more. anyway. laters |
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quidam
Joined: 22 Apr 2005
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your post will be reported remember NO ADVERTISING that stuff. you are a league judge.
-WildCard |
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Strovil
Joined: 11 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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DoItFaster
Joined: 19 Mar 2005
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Location: California
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| Good players like me... jk! |
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sorot
Joined: 24 Dec 2005
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| Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 7:32 am Post subject: |
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i don't like MSW any way
hard to useand understand
let's Flips and
bressing for a luck is nicer |
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Strovil
Joined: 11 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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MWSPlay is perfectly simple to use.
| Quote: | | your post will be reported remember NO ADVERTISING that stuff. you are a league judge. |
Wildcard, does it say anywhere in the forum rules that I cannot mention O Gaming?
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Alucart
Joined: 14 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 2:26 am Post subject: |
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same thing has happened to me in a trial...
i mean especially if you set up a system of back ups.. from hamachi to MWs.. there should not be a penalty toward you for being prepared..
a trial is suppose to be a higher level of competition....
this would be also pretty ridiculous if it happened in a master.. especially since there is a valued prized on the line...
but then again it shouldnt happen in a master because its only MWs.... |
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NightFlare
Joined: 08 Sep 2004
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| Quote: | | Quote: | | your post will be reported remember NO ADVERTISING that stuff. you are a league judge. |
Wildcard, does it say anywhere in the forum rules that I cannot mention O Gaming? |
now taht u mention it, there is no forum rules anywher  |
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